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"Ron you are right in years past the pros did get special treatment because of time constraints of their scheduling with the pro event but as you very well know as you yourself were helping out at the booth last year being a part of the event staff it is difficult to make everyone happy. We have rectified that in last years event with players like Charlie Williams Mika and many more like John Schmidt having to wait to play their turn at the table where we even tried to get another table from the trick shot event to help alleviate this."
That’s complete BS and you know it, Charlie. You bumped groups of amateurs all week last year. I know for certain because, as you mentioned, I was working the booth and keeping score when you did it. You even found it humorous to ridicule amateurs – don’t you remember after bumping some regular guy named Frank you laughed and said, “Which sounds better, ‘ladies and gentleman, on table 1 we have Mika Immonen and on table 2, John Schmidt’ or ‘ladies and gentlemen, on table 1 we have Mika Immonen and on table 2, Frank Scholicter’”. It seemed difficult to make everyone happy because you have a “this is MY event, I make the rules and I can break the rules” type of attitude. Nobody was willing to open their mouth to you about anything because of your shitty attitude.
"As for the amateurs who want to participate in the event no one was snubbed last year including you. And in all honesty if you noticed this so much as you say and you were a part of the event last year, why didn't you say something or bring something to mine or Steve's attention as opposed to complaining about playing into a higher bracket than you feel you should have."
Why didn’t I complain??? Are you effing serious! I blew up when I found out. Steve was welllllll aware as were you.
"I am sorry that you played higher than your normal speed and were penalized for that but you knew as well as everyone else what the brackets were and you played past it. Was I supposed to give you special treatment again like the players mentioned above ? Was that what you were looking for or did you somehow feel that because you were a part of the event that the event rules didn't apply to you? "
Completely false statement on so many fronts that it borders on ridiculous!
I did not play higher than my normal speed and never said I did. I played once. My runs were: 1st attempt: missed break shot; 2nd attempt:42; 3rd attempt: 14; 4th attempt: missed break shot; 5th attempt: 42; for a total of 96.
This is an event for people into straight pool. My high run in playing for 30 years is 80. I play at an amateur level; so do you; so does Steve; so does 99% of the guys in this forum except the obvious few. Being able to average 19 balls from a break shot classifies someone as a professional??? But Bob Madenjian, who regularly plays in professional events is classified as an amateur??? Madenjian placed 6th in the senior division of the Amateur Championship – finishing higher than guys like Dennis Bolella, Mike Lambros, Steve Lillis and Ed Matushonek. He is a KNOWN professional pool player, but an amateur in your eyes?? And who ended up winning the amateur bracket, Charlie? The owner of Raxx, wasn’t it? Coincidentally a large contributor to the event and the owner of a room that you and Steve play at regularly, no? You’re asking for advice, so here’s some hopefully you’ll use – avoid integrity issues at all costs. Even the appearance of an integrity issue is unprofessional.
And what are you talking about, “I knew as well as everyone else what the brackets were”???? That’s a COMPLETE lie! Nobody knew. They were never made public – ever. I asked several times out of curiosity and Steve said he didn’t know what they were going to be – stating that they were not decided yet - it depended on what types of scores were posted. I wasn’t looking for any type of special treatment at all! I was simply looking for fairness and integrity; something year after year you’ve proven that you have a tough time delivering on.
"This year coming we will do our best to ensure everyone gets their chance at the table. I just wish like I said since you witnessed it dozens and dozens of times that you came to us instead of keeping quiet about this like so many other things that I have heard from others and now read about. Perhaps some of those amateurs who you say got snubbed would have gotten the chance to play sooner if you simply opened your mouth as you are now."
Charles, ask Steve. I did voice my opinion – repeatedly and strenuously. And you know full well I did.
20 years of attending the Expo I never spent more than 1 day at it. Last year, however, me and my girl both took time off from work and rented a room for 4 days to come down and help make the Event as successful as possible. We even split a room with Steve “Boy, can that guy snore!” Kurtz to help make it easier for everyone financially. The entire time we volunteered you were disconnected and cold and had a “my way or the highway” attitude – unless a known pro was at the booth, then we could only see your feet sticking out of their ass. It’s rare to volunteer for something you believe in and want to succeed only to walk away never wanting to be involved again because the guy running it is a complete horse’s ass.
Ron F
Ron F
"Ron you are right in years past the pros did get special treatment because of time constraints of their scheduling with the pro event but as you very well know as you yourself were helping out at the booth last year being a part of the event staff it is difficult to make everyone happy. We have rectified that in last years event with players like Charlie Williams Mika and many more like John Schmidt having to wait to play their turn at the table where we even tried to get another table from the trick shot event to help alleviate this."
That’s complete BS and you know it, Charlie. You bumped groups of amateurs all week last year. I know for certain because, as you mentioned, I was working the booth and keeping score when you did it. You even found it humorous to ridicule amateurs – don’t you remember after bumping some regular guy named Frank you laughed and said, “Which sounds better, ‘ladies and gentleman, on table 1 we have Mika Immonen and on table 2, John Schmidt’ or ‘ladies and gentlemen, on table 1 we have Mika Immonen and on table 2, Frank Scholicter’”. It seemed difficult to make everyone happy because you have a “this is MY event, I make the rules and I can break the rules” type of attitude. Nobody was willing to open their mouth to you about anything because of your shitty attitude.
"As for the amateurs who want to participate in the event no one was snubbed last year including you. And in all honesty if you noticed this so much as you say and you were a part of the event last year, why didn't you say something or bring something to mine or Steve's attention as opposed to complaining about playing into a higher bracket than you feel you should have."
Why didn’t I complain??? Are you effing serious! I blew up when I found out. Steve was welllllll aware as were you.
"I am sorry that you played higher than your normal speed and were penalized for that but you knew as well as everyone else what the brackets were and you played past it. Was I supposed to give you special treatment again like the players mentioned above ? Was that what you were looking for or did you somehow feel that because you were a part of the event that the event rules didn't apply to you? "
Completely false statement on so many fronts that it borders on ridiculous!
I did not play higher than my normal speed and never said I did. I played once. My runs were: 1st attempt: missed break shot; 2nd attempt:42; 3rd attempt: 14; 4th attempt: missed break shot; 5th attempt: 42; for a total of 96.
This is an event for people into straight pool. My high run in playing for 30 years is 80. I play at an amateur level; so do you; so does Steve; so does 99% of the guys in this forum except the obvious few. Being able to average 19 balls from a break shot classifies someone as a professional??? But Bob Madenjian, who regularly plays in professional events is classified as an amateur??? Madenjian placed 6th in the senior division of the Amateur Championship – finishing higher than guys like Dennis Bolella, Mike Lambros, Steve Lillis and Ed Matushonek. He is a KNOWN professional pool player, but an amateur in your eyes?? And who ended up winning the amateur bracket, Charlie? The owner of Raxx, wasn’t it? Coincidentally a large contributor to the event and the owner of a room that you and Steve play at regularly, no? You’re asking for advice, so here’s some hopefully you’ll use – avoid integrity issues at all costs. Even the appearance of an integrity issue is unprofessional.
And what are you talking about, “I knew as well as everyone else what the brackets were”???? That’s a COMPLETE lie! Nobody knew. They were never made public – ever. I asked several times out of curiosity and Steve said he didn’t know what they were going to be – stating that they were not decided yet - it depended on what types of scores were posted. I wasn’t looking for any type of special treatment at all! I was simply looking for fairness and integrity; something year after year you’ve proven that you have a tough time delivering on.
"This year coming we will do our best to ensure everyone gets their chance at the table. I just wish like I said since you witnessed it dozens and dozens of times that you came to us instead of keeping quiet about this like so many other things that I have heard from others and now read about. Perhaps some of those amateurs who you say got snubbed would have gotten the chance to play sooner if you simply opened your mouth as you are now."
Charles, ask Steve. I did voice my opinion – repeatedly and strenuously. And you know full well I did.
20 years of attending the Expo I never spent more than 1 day at it. Last year, however, me and my girl both took time off from work and rented a room for 4 days to come down and help make the Event as successful as possible. We even split a room with Steve “Boy, can that guy snore!” Kurtz to help make it easier for everyone financially. The entire time we volunteered you were disconnected and cold and had a “my way or the highway” attitude – unless a known pro was at the booth, then we could only see your feet sticking out of their ass. It’s rare to volunteer for something you believe in and want to succeed only to walk away never wanting to be involved again because the guy running it is a complete horse’s ass.
Ron F
Ron F
