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veneer on wrap area... - 07-27-2018, 10:45 AM

Some time back there were a couple of discussions about wrapping the handle area with veneer to make up for a groove cut too deep. Some one had good information about this. Any one remember who that was and if the person it was sees this would you please call me. 509 392 9015. Thanks


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07-27-2018, 11:17 AM

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Some time back there were a couple of discussions about wrapping the handle area with veneer to make up for a groove cut too deep. Some one had good information about this. Any one remember who that was and if the person it was sees this would you please call me. 509 392 9015. Thanks
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07-27-2018, 12:56 PM

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Some time back there were a couple of discussions about wrapping the handle area with veneer to make up for a groove cut too deep. Some one had good information about this. Any one remember who that was and if the person it was sees this would you please call me. 509 392 9015. Thanks
That was me asking a few years back. I was asked to put a linen wrap on one of those pesky Lucasi cues with a sports wrap. I ended up using two layers of veneer on top of each other, I had to split the veneer shets in 3 to make up one 360 degree layer, it took forever sanding, cutting, measuring. I'm not using that approach again...
I'm doing three cues now, one Lucasi and two Predator and they all have a too deep wrap groove. This time I'm using West epoxy to build up the wrap groove and just sand it to fit the new leather wraps.



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07-27-2018, 02:16 PM

If you get the UV cured epoxy, you can build it up faster, as curing takes about 2 minutes.
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07-28-2018, 06:11 AM

Thanks for the responses.


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07-28-2018, 08:12 AM

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07-28-2018, 08:02 PM

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Or epoxy over linen.
For yourself and dave38.
What's the weight added?


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07-28-2018, 11:59 PM

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For yourself and dave38.
What's the weight added?
From what I have done, veneer used to build up the channel is less weight than using epoxy...of any kind.
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07-29-2018, 04:33 AM

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From what I have done, veneer used to build up the channel is less weight than using epoxy...of any kind.
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I might try it. The veneer is good but at the end of the day. It's a lot of work for cues with channels to deep on purpose.


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Some time back there were a couple of discussions about wrapping the handle area with veneer to make up for a groove cut too deep. Some one had good information about this. Any one remember who that was and if the person it was sees this would you please call me. 509 392 9015. Thanks


I know brent Hartmanís done that if Iím not mistaken. Hell I think it was his thread.


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That was me asking a few years back. I was asked to put a linen wrap on one of those pesky Lucasi cues with a sports wrap. I ended up using two layers of veneer on top of each other, I had to split the veneer shets in 3 to make up one 360 degree layer, it took forever sanding, cutting, measuring. I'm not using that approach again...
I'm doing three cues now, one Lucasi and two Predator and they all have a too deep wrap groove. This time I'm using West epoxy to build up the wrap groove and just sand it to fit the new leather wraps.


Why did you need 3 pieces of veneer?

Wet the veneer and watch the sob bend, steam it over a pot and itíll curl all you want.........no reason a veneer canít be installed into the groove basically the same way one does leather.




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Why did you need 3 pieces of veneer?

Wet the veneer and watch the sob bend, steam it over a pot and itíll curl all you want.........no reason a veneer canít be installed into the groove basically the same way one does leather.

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07-30-2018, 09:58 AM

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You've done this correct? Are you holding the wrap area over the pot as you complete the seam process or just one time to start the initial curl?


I had put a cored figured redwood burl in a handle and chattered the piss out of it. Didnít want to cut it apart and such.

I didnít use a pot I have an old qvc steam cleaner with all kinds of attachments my grandmother had (I use it o clean my vehicles engines mostly lol) one of the connectors is a few inches wide and after I got the initial curl I did use it because I was worried Iíd split the veneer. It ended up going well enough I made my gf daughter a little night light with a maple burl veneer.....made a tube popped out the small eyes and put a light in it.

Another method I know for sure would work but I have no experience in doing is using ammonia to ďplasticizeĒ the wood. Some guys do some mind blowing woodwork using that technique....I mean it will straight up let you fold wood dam near.

Iíll try and find that link from when brent did it as well


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