Good for you. Glad you found your method.
Elbow Drop?
- Thread starter Grandslam
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Thanks Dave! Some suggestions:
1. change the name to Dan White,
2. bigger font and bold with underline and circles around it,
3. a royalty check would be nice... :grin:
I think this is where you need a video camera to analyze your stroke. I've been putting a little left spin on my cue ball (with the Digicue device) but could not figure out where until I video taped it from behind. My shoulders were turning a slight amount to power the forward swing. Too much golf!!! The Digicue is a great device for working on your stroke. Billiards.com has the best price.
You're welcome. Number 1 is done. Sorry about that. 2 and 3 will require a little more effort and brilliance. :grin-square:
Regards,
Dave
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Dan, i'd hold out for "Maestro" or "Professor".
That was a good post, btw.
Dan, i'd hold out for "Maestro" or "Professor".
Thanks. Is that anything like "Master Instructor"?
I think some Pinoys with "loopy" strokes do pretty good.
That is correct, but it doesn't mean an average player trying to use a "loopy" stroke will have anywhere near the same success.
The new crop of Pinoy greats no longer have that loopy stroke .
Dennis and Alex have short stroke.
Aranas, Chua and Ignacio do not have loopy stroke.
I read somewhere a few yrs. back that the long, loopy stroke was a by-product of where they played. Outdoor/semi-outdoor venues, SUPER humidity and slowwwww cloth meant they had to smoke it pretty good to get it around. Conditions and technique have really changed inthe Pinoy game.
Re: elbow drop
Gifted players/athletes can and do learn poor fundamentals at a young age and go on to be phenoms at what they do. Keith McCready, Jim Furyk, among others are prime examples. However, most everyone will agree that fundamentally sound techniques should be used/taught to achieve your greatest potential. There will always be an exception to the rule but why be the exception?
Gifted players/athletes can and do learn poor fundamentals at a young age and go on to be phenoms at what they do. Keith McCready, Jim Furyk, among others are prime examples. However, most everyone will agree that fundamentally sound techniques should be used/taught to achieve your greatest potential. There will always be an exception to the rule but why be the exception?
Trevino didn't have a bad swing. His swing had elements which were unorthodox, but some parts of his swing were better than virtually anybody out there, even to this day. That is why Trevino is one of the best ball strikers in history.
Yet we've all done it trying for that killer draw shot.
Tap, Tap, Tap...
This is absolutely spot on. If you take golf as an example you will find a lot of guys who played back in Trevino's day with unorthodox swings and moves. Arnie and Jack are not exceptions to this. This is because back when there was less money in the game guys figured more things out for themselves and "dug it out of the dirt". As the money increased and the incentive to win and be consistent became more then guys started to adopt swing coaches and all types of other coaches to get an edge. The result? The guys on tour now all have much more orthodox swings that generally look very compact, powerful, and similar to one another.
I'm sure it was the same in Snooker, but I don't have as much knowledge there so I can't say. Pool would be the same way if there were more interest and therefore more instructors, more training formalization, etc.
Thanks guys for mentioning me in a thread other than “the ugliest stroke in pool”. I usually place first or 2nd in those.
Several good points were made in this thread like the improved techniques of the new generation of Filipino players and how most snooker players look quite similar. That is happening slowly with pool as well since the competition has increased.
The original question was about the elbow drop and that has been discussed on here many times. I was at the super billiards expo a few years back and decided to pay attention for that one thing because it was such a hot topic on AZ at the time. Of the final 16 left in the pro event (those that cashed) 15 of them dropped their elbow. I know most instructors teach people not to but most top players do it. In my opinion it’s unnatural not to.
Several good points were made in this thread like the improved techniques of the new generation of Filipino players and how most snooker players look quite similar. That is happening slowly with pool as well since the competition has increased.
The original question was about the elbow drop and that has been discussed on here many times. I was at the super billiards expo a few years back and decided to pay attention for that one thing because it was such a hot topic on AZ at the time. Of the final 16 left in the pro event (those that cashed) 15 of them dropped their elbow. I know most instructors teach people not to but most top players do it. In my opinion it’s unnatural not to.
To the point of what to teach players, the most important things are that they have a stroke that is straight and that their wrist is straight, not curled in. After that there’s a lot of different techniques that will work.
Here’s a link for Fedor Gorst vs Joshua Filler. 2 of the games top young players. Both with great technique. Fedor has a very pronounced elbow drop. Filler’s is much less pronounced on most shots but very noticeable on shots that he hits hard.
https://youtu.be/yQa1_P4PXfU
Here’s a link for Fedor Gorst vs Joshua Filler. 2 of the games top young players. Both with great technique. Fedor has a very pronounced elbow drop. Filler’s is much less pronounced on most shots but very noticeable on shots that he hits hard.
https://youtu.be/yQa1_P4PXfU