Straight pool instuction

deanoc

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I need some very basic help

very basic strategy
such as when the table is open but i have no shot but a hard one
about spot shot difficulty or long and straight

how to run out,which balls to shoot first etc

breaking balls out is almost always trouble

basics
a book or videos would be helpful
 

ShootingArts

Smorg is giving St Peter the 7!
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14.1 subforum

No objection to you posting on the main forum but you might be better off posting the question on the 14.1 forum right here on AZB. Some good guys and good players hang there and rarely come to the main forum.

Hu
 

jackpot

AzB Silver Member
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do this

People that don't play much straight pool or don't run very many balls
don't have a break ball after the 14th ball is made. The only break shot they
are familiar with and confident shooting is the classic one that most people
shoot to start practicing. Balls may be spread and quite a few good break
balls there but the only ones they know or ever practice is same one, and
they shoot off a good break ball,then if they run the rest, try to clip the rack
and play safe or make the last ball and not call it. A ball close to either corner
makes a good break ball,a ball behind the rack is a great break ball, balls
frozen on the side or end rail are good break balls( these are usually easy
to make but you have to practice to make sure you hit the corner ball of the
stack or you will stick in it). Leaving the last ball in the rack, and spotting it
at the other end is a decent and not hard break shot, just leave the cue
ball around the middle on either side, little outside follow brings it around
two rails into the rack (easy, like shooting a spot shot from 2 ft.). A ball in
the middle of the table can be made in either side and smash the rack
open (practice trying to hit one of head balls,or a scratch is possible).
Don't be a 14 and stop player, there are a lot of good break balls once
you start looking, and recognize them, many times there will be multiple
break balls available, so try to identify these early knowing if you have to
change your pattern you can use a different one.
jack


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ctyhntr

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Check out these books from Phil Capelle

https://www.amazon.com/Play-Your-Best-Straight-Pool/dp/0964920425

https://www.amazon.com/Break-Shot-Patterns-Close-Racks/dp/0964920441

I play out of Amsterdam Billiards in NYC, and we have 90+ players for this season's straight pool league. Our own Steve Kurtz has another 54 players in his straight pool league out in his part of Long Island. So, check if there is a straight pool league in your area as well. That's another way to gain experience and learn different styles of strategies.
 
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Bobkitty

I said: "Here kitty, kitty". Got this frown.
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I need some very basic help

very basic strategy
such as when the table is open but i have no shot but a hard one
about spot shot difficulty or long and straight

how to run out,which balls to shoot first etc

breaking balls out is almost always trouble

basics
a book or videos would be helpful

Robin Dreyer specializes in 14.1. Can you take a trip to Portland, Oregon. He's been teaching pool for over 30 years. Has both a 7' and 9' table. You're game will never be better. He taught me 98 break ball shots but I was not ready for it. You probably are.
Go to robindreyer.com for information.
 

SARDiver

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I second the recommendation for Phil Capelle's books. I found Play Your Best Straight Pool a bit more enjoyable than the break shot patterns book, mainly due to the broader array of topics.
 

goettlicher

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Our very own Mike Grosso from Dallas Texas.
Studied under the greats Roy Kinman and Bob Vanover.

Contact Mike

randyg
 

Black-Balled

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Honestly, dean...if you havent figured out pool and how it fits into you by now, you arent going to.

And you know winning has little to do with how well you play.

Mr Martin has offered his services to you many times. What do you hope to find?
 

deanoc

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I should have seen Ray a while back
I owe him an apology for not coming to him

As far as I am concerned he is the best person to teach me

and if I can get healthy enought to get away from Dallas,I would love to visit him


Randy has also offered to help,
I know he is one of the best instructors but I have wanted to see Ray so long
that I really am hoping to do it

I want to buy any of the books,if someone has them please contact me
Dean
 

grindz

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Playing straight pool is like taking a lesson all in itself.... there is no where to run and
Nowhere to hide...

If your potting is weak... it will be readily evident
If your position is weak..”. “
If your strategy is weak..” “
If your stamina is weak..” “

“The game is ‘definitely’ the teacher” as CJ often said. What he didn’t often say is...
You have to listen.... the truth can hurt... I know for me it often does!

As for books.... Mastering Pool by Fels and learning ABC balls was the beginning of
My long path to knowing what I didn’t know, and knowing how much I still need to learn.

Td
 

14-1StraightMan

High Run 127
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Our very own Mike Grosso from Dallas Texas.
Studied under the greats Roy Kinman and Bob Vanover.

Contact Mike

randyg

Thanks Randy... I'm always willing to help a player that wants to learn or learn more about 14.1...… but if he wants to improve his overall shooting game. He can look into one of your schools if one ever comes to his area.
 

Black-Balled

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So what is the deal, dean?

Are you going to get together with ray, or not?

I'd suggest some secret 1p lessons with him too. Just a couple new shots would be hugely impactful to a low/ mid level player.

Ray know pool.
 
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