Joe Rogan gives pool lessons
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It's not hard to clock his game. He has obviously put in enough time on the table to pocket balls and move the cue ball around, understands pattern play, and can run balls in rotation. That said, he clearly has some things to learn about pattern play and I can see from how he shoots his consistency wouldn't be there. It's hard to picture him breaking and running 4 racks of 9 ball, but it wouldn't be impossible if he was playing all of the time. But really I'd put his fargo rate somewhere in the 575 range plus or minus 10 points.
For those really interested in picking apart patterns here are some of the tells that reveal leaks in his game. The 4 to the 5 (which he had to reset up and shoot again as another poster pointed out) was crossing the line into the narrow end of the positional zone and he had to get lucky to get shape. Better would be if he could've gone across table to the other side rail instead of down table towards the end rail. If he hit just past the side he'd always have a shot and would have a natural angle to come back up table to the other end rail to get an angle on the 6 to go back for the 7. But if he had to play it the route he did it would've been better to get all the way to the end rail, to the side rail and out again. So three rails to the larger end of the positional zone. The way he played it he could've gotten straight in, on the end rail, short in the middle of the table, or even run into the 5.
Then from the 7 to the 8 he talked about not wanting to get hooked behind the 10. He hit a good shot but ended up side pocket hooked and was lucky not to scratch. I don't think this was best. I have good cue ball but wouldn't want to have to pound draw back to a small window and then draw back through the same window across the line of position for the 9. I think it's much better to use high right on the 7, follow to the side rail and spin down below the 9 for a cut on the 8. From there you will always have a shot and an angle to play shape for the 9 (how would depend on the exact angle).
I am not picking on Joe in any way, for an amateur player he is way above average and is definitely a 'real' pool player. He has obviously put in his time and has passion for the game. And when it comes to podcasts he's elite. So for being an afterthought hobby it is pretty impressive and not surprising given the heart he puts into everything he does.
For those really interested in picking apart patterns here are some of the tells that reveal leaks in his game. The 4 to the 5 (which he had to reset up and shoot again as another poster pointed out) was crossing the line into the narrow end of the positional zone and he had to get lucky to get shape. Better would be if he could've gone across table to the other side rail instead of down table towards the end rail. If he hit just past the side he'd always have a shot and would have a natural angle to come back up table to the other end rail to get an angle on the 6 to go back for the 7. But if he had to play it the route he did it would've been better to get all the way to the end rail, to the side rail and out again. So three rails to the larger end of the positional zone. The way he played it he could've gotten straight in, on the end rail, short in the middle of the table, or even run into the 5.
Then from the 7 to the 8 he talked about not wanting to get hooked behind the 10. He hit a good shot but ended up side pocket hooked and was lucky not to scratch. I don't think this was best. I have good cue ball but wouldn't want to have to pound draw back to a small window and then draw back through the same window across the line of position for the 9. I think it's much better to use high right on the 7, follow to the side rail and spin down below the 9 for a cut on the 8. From there you will always have a shot and an angle to play shape for the 9 (how would depend on the exact angle).
I am not picking on Joe in any way, for an amateur player he is way above average and is definitely a 'real' pool player. He has obviously put in his time and has passion for the game. And when it comes to podcasts he's elite. So for being an afterthought hobby it is pretty impressive and not surprising given the heart he puts into everything he does.
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I think most people would have been shocked at some of the guys she would have submitted. Not just 125s
135.
Considering the guys at 135 at the time, I doubt it.
Cruz, Barao, faber, mike Brown, dj, Benavidez, etc
At least among the top guys in her own weight
class, she would have gotten smashed.
A mix of hype and competitors with limited
skills made her look good.
She did alot for womens mma but ufc and Rogan
exaggerated her abilities.
Who???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_K7dswCvN4
That is Rousey getting worked by a high school wrestler when Rogan said she would clear out the UFC men's division.
She was a really good Judoka but came to women's MMA in it's infancy similar to that of Royce Gracie. No one knew what to do with him or her in the beginning.
She was a one dimensional fighter who should have stuck with her game plan. Tarverdyan convinced her that she had the best hands in ALL of MMA and she could beat Floyd Mayweather in boxing.
She decided to box Holy Holm, a 16 time defending world champion in 3 different weight classes and was completely out classed.
She then tried to prove a point by showing everyone that it was a fluke and she really could fight and then got obliterated by Nunes.
She was really good at women's MMA in the beginning but once it evolved, fighters caught up with her skill level and passed her. She was not willing to seek out better trainers to keep up with the sport.
Remember if he doesn't promote especially who Dana wants, he could be out of a job.
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Id have to see that to believe it. In fact I'll bet $25 he never said Pacquiao was a 'top pro player'.
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Bad editing. Where is Cleary when you need him?:wink:
As Tin Man pointed out, Joe doesn't see the easy way. Or, maybe he is lemonading to jack the bet.:groucho:
Well stated. Just my opinion but I think Joe is a guy who can be accepted in many of life's aspects. A bright man who finds many things interesting, and researches all pretty well. Car guys consider him welcome, so do pool guys, and that is only 2 areas he displays knowledge in.
Again $25 if you can point out a Podcast where he said that Pacquiao ' is a top pro player'.
Edit-Make it $50
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That’s what I was thinking when watching. He’s trying to give an extremely rough overview of the intricacies of the game. Not necessarily teaching the guy correct pattern play, more just showing him the thought process.
I wouldn’t want to have to clock his speed based on that video alone
Not sure one snip bit is a true clocking. But it would be great to see if he is a A or a B player.
I think he would beast me pretty readily...
JR playing at Hollywood Billiards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozkDsQ1UY1k
JR playing at his house...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-eXD0yhZYw
He would beat me, but don't think he would run over me, and I suck. I play regularly with an APA 7, FR in the 570's. Based on the video, I would say they are pretty close.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozkDsQ1UY1k
JR playing at his house...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-eXD0yhZYw
He would beat me, but don't think he would run over me, and I suck. I play regularly with an APA 7, FR in the 570's. Based on the video, I would say they are pretty close.
You're right. She would NOT have beaten any one of them, she would have had her clocked clean. I would have cleaned her clock in my younger days in the martial arts and I was hardly any champion. I was 155 pounds.
Not to mention, the bar room brawlers, with no formal training except real life experience would have killed her in a heart beat. I don't even like to fight bar brawlers back in the day, they were just mean SOB's and you had to kill them to win the fight. Fuggers could take punches all night long, how do you win that shit ? No thanks, I avoided them at all costs, you knew who they were as soon as you entered any bar in the area
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LOL
Don't remember which episode. Rogan has superlative praise for Pacquiao pool skills.
Here is one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwBfIbF4g0M&feature=youtu.be&t=6183 where he claims Pacquiao plays at professional level.
LOL
Don't remember which episode. Rogan has superlative praise for Pacquiao pool skills.
Here is one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwBfIbF4g0M&feature=youtu.be&t=6183 where he claims Pacquiao plays at professional level.
That's not 'a top pro player' so im not gonna listen and u dont get $50
LOL
Don't remember which episode. Rogan has superlative praise for Pacquiao pool skills.
Here is one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwBfIbF4g0M&feature=youtu.be&t=6183 where he claims Pacquiao plays at professional level.
I don't put much stock into many things Rogan says...I'll just leave this here and you can judge for yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_cLvl6mV3s