radial tap issue

yahosh

yahosh

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I am having an issue trying to tap a new shaft with a radial tap.
I have successfully used this tap before, so I'm not really sure where I'm screwing up.
Anyway, I had the shaft chucked up on the small end, with the joint end in a collet in a ball bearing steady rest. Everything seemed very solid and secure. I center drilled, then drilled with a 1/4" bit, then bored the hole to .312. I put a little wax on the tap and ran it in a couple times, and everything seemed fine. Except it won't screw on to the cue. It almost seems cross-threaded? I tried putting another shaft (which I made with the same tap) on this cue with no problems.
I have bored out this shaft twice now and plugged and re-tapped it, trying to do each step as perfectly as I know how, and if anything, my results are getting worse. Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks,
Josh
 
yahosh

yahosh

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I thought so too, but a different shaft, that I made using the same tap, screws on just fine. The cue is a sledgehammer.
 
Michael Webb

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yahosh said:
I thought so too, but a different shaft, that I made using the same tap, screws on just fine. The cue is a sledgehammer.
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sledgehammer uses the overseas radial, but then Samsara was doing them also but don't know what they were using. sorry josh.
 
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JoeyInCali

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Michael Webb said:
sledgehammer uses the overseas radial, but then Samsara was doing them also but don't know what they were using. sorry josh.
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ding ding ding .
Same ones used on imported Omega, Nick Varner and Schmelke for a while.
They have more that 7.5 tpi.
 
yahosh

yahosh

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Well, I held the tap next to the pin and I could easily see what everyone is saying. It is obviously not the right tap. I guess I must have done a pretty sloppy job on that first shaft, for it to fit both pins. Oh well, at least its mine, and not for a customer. Anyone know where I could find the "import" radial tap?
Thanks,
Josh
 
Michael Webb

Michael Webb

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yahosh said:
Well, I held the tap next to the pin and I could easily see what everyone is saying. It is obviously not the right tap. I guess I must have done a pretty sloppy job on that first shaft, for it to fit both pins. Oh well, at least its mine, and not for a customer. Anyone know where I could find the "import" radial tap?
Thanks,
Josh
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I thought Schmelke sold it at one time.
 
JoeyInCali

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rhncue said:
I don't believe they carry them any more. At least a year or two ago they said that they weren't. I've got one but it doesn't work very well.

Dick
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Another bastard pin. I'm glad it's going extinct.
I really don't know how a joint pin can get any better than the true radial pin.
 
Michael Webb

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JoeyInCali said:
I really don't know how a joint pin can get any better than the true radial pin.
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Well Sir, Just because opinions vary and everyone wants to be special. I have quite the inventory of taps and dies. I decided not to have any more made a few years back, It's just not worth it.
 
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radge69

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What was sold to me as Schmelke's tap (I bought from a trusted member here) does not work worth a damn. It looks like a driver, the "tap" compresses the threads to form in the hole. It's crap.
 
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rhncue

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radge69 said:
What was sold to me as Schmelke's tap (I bought from a trusted member here) does not work worth a damn. It looks like a driver, the "tap" compresses the threads to form in the hole. It's crap.
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That's what I got also.

Dick
 
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