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12-18-2018, 11:23 AM

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That's 8-2 and THE BREAKS Sir! LOL Yeah, but do you remember that last cue you made for me (my first box cue, and your first CNC cue)? What a beauty back in '83! The design for that cue was on a sheet of notebook paper that I drew up in 1972, and made my first pilgrimage to your house in Aspen! I couldn't afford it then, but you made it for my 30th BD many years later. Remember too, I kept that cue and sold my Balabushka in '91 to buy an APA franchise?

Rotation games are waaaay different than 1-pkt Bill! But we can make a game. In 9ball, CJ offered me the "blue through", and Shannon says he can give me the 3-out! What's your offer for 10ball? I get to Phoenix...now and then!

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12-18-2018, 12:58 PM

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Scott,

Thanks for the complement but 8 to 2 might be a bid much.

I remember how you used to play and can only hope you have taught yourself as well as others.

DCC is a bit far for me (I hate flying nowadays) but I will be in PHX for the winter.

10 ball is actually the game I prefer to play. Get to shoot a lot of balls.
Hate one foul. Don't play it anymore.

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12-18-2018, 12:59 PM

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That's 8-2 and THE BREAKS Sir! LOL Yeah, but do you remember that last cue you made for me (my first box cue, and your first CNC cue)? What a beauty back in '83! The design for that cue was on a sheet of notebook paper that I drew up in 1972, and made my first pilgrimage to your house in Aspen! I couldn't afford it then, but you made it for my 30th BD many years later. Remember too, I kept that cue and sold my Balabushka in '91 to buy an APA franchise?

Rotation games are waaaay different than 1-pkt Bill! But we can make a game. In 9ball, CJ offered me the "blue through", and Shannon says he can give me the 3-out! What's your offer for 10ball? I get to Phoenix...now and then!

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Scott,

I remember both your visit to Aspen and to Co Springs.
That cue was a good design and it was fun to make.
Do you still have it?

As far as the 10 ball, the 5 out seems reasonable as long as you are willing to play push out or try to hit the ball and bet high. Play by the game or 10 ahead.
That is a fair test. That's the way I play the Ghost when I am in Ruidoso and have no one to play.

Let me know. I am at Kolbys most days.

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12-18-2018, 01:34 PM

Scott is acting like a hustler
asking for so much weight ,no one in the world could give it to him

Tsk Tsk

scott ,I never knew you were a hustler,but now that I do
i will be on guard

8 to 2 is a lot of weight

Billy better be careful or I might change to betting on scott



my hat is off to Scott
He is displaying the Rule 1 of hustling

ASK FOR THE NUTS

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12-18-2018, 02:22 PM

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For all I know you could be right about this, but that is a MIGHTY broad brush you are painting with. Why do you think you can speak for this elusive "new breed"? How are you so in tune that you know their eating habits and whether they indulge in smoke or booze?
This new breed:
Wasn't too long ago that a current top player had an ugly episode regarding a stolen SUV and hiring someone to rough up a big money fish in Vegas?
Wasn't it also fairly recent that a current world ranked player got drunk in a bar and grabbed another player by the balls, thus getting punched in the jaw?
Wasn't a recent "fat bellied loser" as you like to call them, qualified for the MC until a failed drug test?
Wasn't it pretty recently that another top player was called out for having a significant other who was maybe a little young for many peoples tastes?
Heck one of this countries best 1 pocket players is a long way from 6 pack abs. That does not make him a bad person. It does not do anything to damage pool's image. Nor does the former snooker player-turned pool juggernaut from across the pond who could be considered "portly"
I guess I am just not as familiar with this white collar, Ivy League new breed. I'll take pool and pool players with all their faults and larger than life stories and personalities.
What does "larger than life" mean?
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12-18-2018, 03:00 PM

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What does "larger than life" mean?
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12-18-2018, 05:01 PM

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Scott,

That's the way I play the Ghost when I am in Ruidoso and have no one to play.

Let me know. I am at Kolbys most days.

Bill S.
Bill, what is your age now? Are you as good as you ever was? Ruidoso is close to my hometown in Clovis. Used to fly through there on our way to Juarez as teenagers. What for? Don't ask?


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12-18-2018, 05:29 PM

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Bill, what is your age now? Are you as good as you ever was? Ruidoso is close to my hometown in Clovis. Used to fly through there on our way to Juarez as teenagers. What for? Don't ask?
I am 77 and my speed is not as good as when I was on the road gambling but is not far behind.

I put in 6 hours or more on a tight Diamond playing Straight Pool and 10 ball.
One pocket is difficult to practice alone so I practice Bank Pool.

My eyes are good now that the Lymphoma is under control for the time being.
I know it will return in Spades. No escape. Till then I will play on.

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12-18-2018, 05:34 PM

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I am 77 and my speed is not as good as when I was on the road gambling but is not far behind.

I put in 6 hours or more on a tight Diamond playing Straight Pool and 10 ball.
One pocket is difficult to practice alone so I practice Bank Pool.

My eyes are good now that the Lymphoma is under control for the time being.
I know it will return in Spades. No escape. Till then I will play on.

Bill S.
Thanks, I wish I could meet you but I live in Oregon. I do know you've been a huge cue maker with Joss and on with the CNC machines. I wish you well.


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12-18-2018, 09:51 PM

I hustled a girl playing bar box 8 ball and got her number, she paid me back by marrying me.

Ghost ball -> 21 years married.


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12-19-2018, 03:31 AM

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Busy looking for all the Modern pool players with Real Estate Empires and PHDs.

Might be a score there somewhere?

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Plenty of pool players have PHD's if go by what a lot of folks think the acronym stands for....

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I am 77 and my speed is not as good as when I was on the road gambling but is not far behind.

I put in 6 hours or more on a tight Diamond playing Straight Pool and 10 ball.
One pocket is difficult to practice alone so I practice Bank Pool.

My eyes are good now that the Lymphoma is under control for the time being.
I know it will return in Spades. No escape. Till then I will play on.

Bill S.
Bill, if you're ever near Tulsa stop by Magoos. Someone will give you a game. You cast a large shadow while here. People still talk about your "Tulsa-built" stuff and going to your shop for repairs.
  
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Bill, if you're ever near Tulsa stop by Magoos. Someone will give you a game. You cast a large shadow while here. People still talk about your "Tulsa-built" stuff and going to your shop for repairs.
Magoos is a great room. Does Wiilie Coyote still come around?
What about Mike Betts?

Miss Tulsa except for the weather.

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Magoos is a great room. Does Wiilie Coyote still come around?
What about Mike Betts?

Miss Tulsa except for the weather.

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Bill i saw Wiley just last week. Asked about "the" cue and he said he keeps it locked up. Sadly, we lost Mike in '07. Complications/infection from an old medical issue flared-up and it got him. Sure liked that guy.
  
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random thoughts - 12-19-2018, 10:50 AM

Interesting thread. When I was 19 in the 80's I left my house on the east coat with $80 and a half tank of gas. Got to LA with $13,000 and a full tank. Mostly hitting bar rooms, I would look for bars with single tables close to the bar and lots of people lined up to play. Back then they everyone was playing for at least a beer so it was not hard to get the game changed to $5 a game. I would play straight out full speed running every rack I could. Very seldom would they quit on me, most the time more quarters would line up on the rail and they couldn't wait to get at me. Back then lots of people played and they respected a good player. Though sometimes after winning 10 or 20 games in a row they would cheer when I lost. But it was almost always good natured and I always made friends by the end of the night.

I hit pool rooms as well but I was never a true top flight player so I was careful about who I played. I would play the guy who was there even though I got beat sometimes, but never played the guy they called. Back then there was always a guy they could call. Sometimes in bars or pool halls against a single opponent I would hide my speed, I would just play lots of uncalled safes, miss my shot and leave the guy no shot. So even though I would still beat him he would get lots turns at the table, and would keep coming. I guess you could call that hustling but that was just how the game was played. When you go to Vegas the casino never tells you it is mathematically impossible to win consistently on a slot machine. But you would have to be idiot do be playing it and not know that. Most players do know but just hope they get lucky. If a stranger watches you play than asks you to play for money chances are he knows he can beat you. So crying when you lose or calling the guy a hustler is just foolish, he is money player same as you if you agree to play. He is just better at it then you are if he wins. Deal with it.

I quit pool for like 15 years literately never picked up a cue just got back a few years ago. Nowadays you go into a bar and the players are all league players and they won't play for anything. If their not playing the table just sits there empty. The pool rooms are all closed or empty most of the time. Where have all the fishes gone?

As for the quality of play it is just a numbers game if a 100 people in the world are playing the 10 ten players are not going to be as good as the top ten if there are 100,000 people playing. Back then more people were playing and there were way more solid players than there are now. And the players from the 40's and 50's when everyone hung around pool rooms produced lots more solid players than in my day. Even the fishes could run racks back then.

Money players kept the game going for decades but now the leagues are the ones keeping it going. But it still seems to be dying. What the game needs is some charismatic super stars to revitalize public interest. Like Bird and Magic did for the NBA. Until then I guess we just bang away in empty pool rooms, or smile politely when some league player tells you that you got lucky when you run out on him and won't play again even though you were playing for free. Somewhere Boston Shorty and all the other legendary hustlers of old are rolling over in their graves thankful they left before the politically correct rec players took all the money from the game.
  
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