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The History of 9 Ball Pool???
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I suppose then, that Texas Express 9 Ball is all I've ever known.
2 Foul doesn't sound bad. It sounds like any blocked shot could be pushed out, for the whole rack. Of course if that push out shot is missed, it would result in ball-in-hand.
I've always loved ball in hand pool, and I insist upon all games being played ball-in-hand on any fouls, at my table. It's just right to do so.
2 Foul doesn't sound bad. It sounds like any blocked shot could be pushed out, for the whole rack. Of course if that push out shot is missed, it would result in ball-in-hand.
I've always loved ball in hand pool, and I insist upon all games being played ball-in-hand on any fouls, at my table. It's just right to do so.
There's a very good reason why so many defend 2 fouls with such passion. Not because it was "the way things always were, UNTIL..." but because it was a GREAT way to play, involving much more than anyone who never played it can ever imagine. I guarantee you, if EVERYONE who plays 9 ball played nothing but 2 fouls for a year, MOST would never play TE again. And I understand that's hard to process but I firmly stand behind that statement.
You guys are dreaming.
I will give you that amongst folks who take 4+ innings a game, there are a lot of lucked leaves, but at the pro level, there is absolutely no rational reason that an incoming shooter- as a result of either his or his opponent's leave- should not be required to make legal contact from the given lie.
I will give you that amongst folks who take 4+ innings a game, there are a lot of lucked leaves, but at the pro level, there is absolutely no rational reason that an incoming shooter- as a result of either his or his opponent's leave- should not be required to make legal contact from the given lie.
Coming from one who played puss-out for years, ftr.
I’ve always liked the ring game rule where you can give the shot back to the guy who missed.
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Where I'm from, we played push-out usually when we didn't have a shot.
If you were good at bank shots you pushed to a bank shot.
If you were good at cut shots, you pushed to cut the ball.
We weren't pushing out to play safe after the shot, we went for the shot after a push out.
Then it seemed straight pool players wanted to play nine ball and that was when all the safety play started.
Texas Express came out to speed up the game for TV.
I still don't know why you just can't make up rules for your own tournaments.
Why does everyone want to shoot the same rules the Pros play.
I think to win at nine ball you need to make the nine. That three foul rule is bullshit.
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Where I'm from, we played push-out usually when we didn't have a shot.
If you were good at bank shots you pushed to a bank shot.
If you were good at cut shots, you pushed to cut the ball.
We weren't pushing out to play safe after the shot, we went for the shot after a push out.
Then it seemed straight pool players wanted to play nine ball and that was when all the safety play started.
Texas Express came out to speed up the game for TV.
I still don't know why you just can't make up rules for your own tournaments.
Why does everyone want to shoot the same rules the Pros play.
I think to win at nine ball you need to make the nine. That three foul rule is bullshit.
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Well, I must say that I really enjoy having to hit a ball regardless of the layout of the table. Old timers before me took great pride in hooking the other guy, and in hitting challenging shots themselves. I am proud when I kick at a ball I can't see, and strike that sucker anyway. Show the other guy that you can overcome that mess!
It reminds me of snooker.
I've never called that 3 foul rule on anyone. I did have a guy call it on me once; but then when he passed away, he left me his pool table. All is forgiven, my friend!!! God speed!!!
One of the main reasons I've given up 9 ball. Ball in hand anywhere is THE WORST rule change in the history of the game. I've played people Straight Pool who thought you could do that in 14.1. Oh, the horror!!
I love ball in hand myself, because it severely punishes mistakes.
However, I am willing to listen to sound reason. If ball in hand were removed from pool, what would discourage your opponent from committing a foul?
One pocket is great with pushouts.
Hey boys and girls, I have been curious about 2 foul 9 ball for a while now. Although I ain't a gummer, I also ain't a youngster either, I just started playing later in life.
So if any of you know of a match or two that was televised back in the day, and made it to youtube, post a link.
I would like to see how the game was played before Texas express rules.
Best to all
Turbo
So if any of you know of a match or two that was televised back in the day, and made it to youtube, post a link.
I would like to see how the game was played before Texas express rules.
Best to all
Turbo
Doubt you'll find any videos of 2-foul 9ball. By late 80's one-foul had become the standard tournament rules and most ,then all, gambling went to it.
And really, much of the game is unclear which rule set is being used. Running out remains the best option, ya know?
NodNod! Hell YES. We always played "best" ( yeah, sure it was, Hoss ) effort. Which left a HELL of a lot of "questionable" "best" efforts. And that rule took right good care of it!
We played that if all agreed that it was impossible for the shooter to hit the ball, he was allowed to push out, but we usually played best effort with pass-back. I think we sometimes played that all players had to pass the shot around because some would pass the shot back when they shouldn't.
Glory be, pool players trying to gain an advantage under *less-than-stellar* moral circumstances??? Say it ain't so, Joe... say it ain't so!!! :grin::grin::grin:
We never played push out in ring games down here, Mr. Jewett, sir. When I was stationed at Ft Ord, I never got in any ring games, so I've no idea how y'all played out there. But down here it was always best effort. But, we always played pass back too. So not making qquuuiiiteeee one's "best" effort became almost *like* pushing out, in a convoluted way. :grin: