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Speed Check - Troy Miller - 11-22-2019, 08:51 AM

Anyone know this guy?

I've heard of him, plays 1p, not sure where he's from or how well he plays though I believe he's here in the northeast.

Any solid info appreciated.


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Rules of The Road - 11-22-2019, 09:15 AM

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Anyone know this guy?

I've heard of him, plays 1p, not sure where he's from or how well he plays though I believe he's here in the northeast.

Any solid info appreciated.
So you want someone to ''knock'' his action while he's on the road?

Keep in mind, someone here can give you a False narrative.

Watch em, and if he offers you a game, you probably need more weight.

Good players often spend more time making a game, than actually playing it.


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11-22-2019, 09:22 AM

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So you want someone to ''knock'' his action while he's on the road?

Keep in mind, someone here can give you a False narrative.

Watch em, and if he offers you a game, you probably need more weight.

Good players often spend more time making a game, than actually playing it.
Kinda what i thought here too. I wouldn't tell if i knew exactly how the guy played.
  
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11-22-2019, 09:36 AM

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11-22-2019, 10:19 AM

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Anyone know this guy?

I've heard of him, plays 1p, not sure where he's from or how well he plays though I believe he's here in the northeast.

Any solid info appreciated.
Hi Brian,

We have apps for that! If this is the gentleman, he's a solid "A" player.

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Kinda what i thought here too. I wouldn't tell if i knew exactly how the guy played.
I appreciate the sentiment (not kidding, I do) but it's no longer 1986.


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Hi Brian,

We have apps for that! If this is the gentleman, he's a solid "A" player.

Chris
thx, Sir...........


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11-22-2019, 10:31 AM

They'll be someone come along soon and knock it.

Guys don't even hustle, just look for games and they get knocked.

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11-22-2019, 11:41 AM

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They'll be someone come along soon and knock it.

Guys don't even hustle, just look for games and they get knocked.
So many players are in FargoRate without even knowing they got in, it would be hard to hide their speed anyway. The other way to research speed is player finder on AZ. Here Mr. Miller took 2nd in a regional stop. All of this makes sense with his rating. All public info, easily found. I don't think there's any harm in asking a player's general speed, just to know if you should be on the same table with them.
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11-22-2019, 01:11 PM

Yup it's not 1968 anymore.
We live in the information age,it's hard to hide.
The great heavyweight fighter Joe Louis from the 1930's once said of an opponent "he can run but he can't hide"
Joe didn't know that he was ahead of his time.


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11-22-2019, 03:21 PM

knocking a player kills action for everyone in the long run

if people were knocking other players i used to remember to
lay down a spread for that knocker
then when he tells his friends or strangers they both lose
plus the helpful knocker is revealed to others as unreliable

there was a helpful detective like this in dallas, i spent a few
days losing small bets to him
until he had won a few hundred
then when i matched up with people who listened to guys
like this i was able to get
nearly $1.000 in bets including our friend the detective


i always found that detectives and most losers will bet more
on others than they do on themselves

when others miss these guys call them dogs,hence they must
get the cold nuts to bet because
they are concerned with what others think about them

most pool gamblers are afraid to bet on them self because
of fear of losing face

but they often bet fairly high on others.
this allows them to shift the blame
  
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knocking a player kills action for everyone in the long run

if people were knocking other players i used to remember to
lay down a spread for that knocker
then when he tells his friends or strangers they both lose
plus the helpful knocker is revealed to others as unreliable

there was a helpful detective like this in dallas, i spent a few
days losing small bets to him
until he had won a few hundred
then when i matched up with people who listened to guys
like this i was able to get
nearly $1.000 in bets including our friend the detective


i always found that detectives and most losers will bet more
on others than they do on themselves

when others miss these guys call them dogs,hence they must
get the cold nuts to bet because
they are concerned with what others think about them

most pool gamblers are afraid to bet on them self because
of fear of losing face

but they often bet fairly high on others.
this allows them to shift the blame
This might be the most insightful thing I've ever seen you post.


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11-22-2019, 08:35 PM

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So you want someone to ''knock'' his action while he's on the road?

Keep in mind, someone here can give you a False narrative.

Watch em, and if he offers you a game, you probably need more weight.

Good players often spend more time making a game, than actually playing it.
^^^^^ is true for a strong "a" speed and weak shortstops.

But, from my experience, players that are considered strong shortstop speed and up, well, their usually so well known they can't hide. People know their speed before they ever meet them in person.

For tournament play, the strong shortstops and higher makes money but, in hustling from room to room, well the slightly weaker (LESS KNOWN) player will make bank.

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The "code" - 11-22-2019, 09:00 PM

The last time some guys passed through that were on the road I kept my mouth shut, I knew the locals could take care of themselves. The road players took down a nice score between one winning and one placing high in a tournament so the local guys knew what they were facing when they gave them another thousand or two. The road guys weren't hiding their speed, they just weren't being quite honest about who they were and where they were from.

However, let me be blunt, the "code" is and always has been bullshit. The road players were networking and sharing information about local players long before "networking" was a name for it. Once you are in "the book" the road player has a very good idea who he is looking for and what he is facing. Sharing the same information on the road player is just leveling the playing field. The code of silence just helped the road player while they didn't hesitate to share information themselves.

Road players knew who I was, my speed when I played other road players, and how to go about trying to beat me. Why shouldn't we share the same information on road players? Never-the-less, it is still very possible to sail under the radar. When is the last time somebody was sent a picture and asked who someone was? Same on here, when was the last time a picture was published? There are other reasons the road is tough, always has been. I don't think the information age has been what killed the road. More a matter of inflation and a lack of robust pool halls to visit. Too, people today are looking for a level of life on the road that was always a myth.

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