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03-12-2015, 10:49 AM

A short history of the Bill of Rights:

In the beginning, there were Federalists and Antifederalists. The Federalists, led by Alexander Hamilton, favored a very powerful central government (by 18th Century standards). With the exception of the second President, you've probably never heard of any other Federalists. There was a reason why the Federalists favored such a large and imposing government...the party consisted almost entirely of merchants, industrialists, and former British noblemen: all of whom were unbelievably wealthy. Alexander Hamilton was a banker, and John Adams was a Harvard lawyer. It only made sense that these people believed they should run America. In essence, the Federalists wanted to recreate the British Monarchy and Parliament in America (minus the title of "King").

The Antifederalists aka Jeffersonians aka Democratic-Republicans, led by James Madison and Thomas Jefferson (and all the famous Founding Fathers), despised the idea of a central government. Instead, the Antifederalists proposed something similar to city-states as defined by the Greeks. Each state would operate independently but would stand united during times of duress: like a Persian or British invasion. To preserve inter-state relations, a council of representatives from each state would work with each other to peacefully resolve conflict.

As expected, a time of duress occurred; the British invaded. Some states/colonies wanted to fight; others didn't want to risk lives. To further strengthen the ties between states/colonies, congress drafted the Articles of Confederation, which was basically an agreement that all 13 states would fight the British together.

Miraculously, the states held off the British. It was assumed that the states would go back to operating independently.

Perhaps the greatest achievement of the Federalists was the ratification of the Constitution in 1779 which officially created the United States of America. The Articles were drafted using the constitutions of the wealthiest and most powerful states: Virginia and Massachusetts. However, in order for the Antifederalists to adopt the Constitution, some limitations had to be included...the Bill of Rights.

The rights specified in the Bill of Rights were commonly held to be god-given and literally impossible to deny. For example, the freedom to speak is afforded to any human being with the ability to communicate. And the freedom to defend oneself is afforded to any human being with the ability to throw a punch. The Bill of Rights specifically forbade the central government from even attempting to suppress such rights. Additionally, the Bill of Rights forbade the central government from using force to unjustly coerce or restrain any individual. Lastly, the Bill of Rights forbade the central government from imposing laws on the individual states, and forbade the states from attempting to suppress or coerce individual people.

The vision of the Founding Fathers was to create 13 individual countries bound together by a treaty (like the European Union). Expansion across the western continent created a very powerful congress. The abolitionist victory in the Civil War created a single nation no longer consisting of independent states, but of regional states with little to no power within themselves. The world wars created a superpower with global military influence. And the Cold War fundamentally disassembled the Bill of Rights in the name of national security.

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03-12-2015, 02:09 PM

If our rights are God-given, then we have not lost any such rights. We still have them.

What has changed is the government's agreement to honor them, and not traduce them. Basically, the BOR stands in tatters if it stands at all any longer. Maybe a few of them remain partially in effect, although still under siege from government predations upon them.

There isn't much government quartering of their forces in private homes. That's about the only thing in the BOR that hasn't been severely eroded.

Several prominent people of this country's past are quoted to have said this:

Those who would give up Essential Liberty
to purchase a little Temporary Safety,
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If our rights are God-given, then we have not lost any such rights. We still have them.

What has changed is the government's agreement to honor them, and not traduce them. Basically, the BOR stands in tatters if it stands at all any longer. Maybe a few of them remain partially in effect, although still under siege from government predations upon them.

There isn't much government quartering of their forces in private homes. That's about the only thing in the BOR that hasn't been severely eroded.

Several prominent people of this country's past are quoted to have said this:

Those who would give up Essential Liberty
to purchase a little Temporary Safety,
deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
Quartering of soldiers isn't really an issue in a militarily inactive zone such as North America. Some would argue that the people of Vietnam or Baghdad are not entitled to protection under the Constitution since they are not US citizens; but I would say some involuntary hospice has been provided around the globe.
  
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05-29-2016, 06:13 AM

How The Senate Just Took "A Hatchet To American Liberty"


Submitted by Tyler Durden on 05/28/2016 21:17 -0400



Last Tuesday the Senate Intelligence Committee approved the annual Intelligence Authorization Act for 2017, which is now set to be considered by the full Senate.

The bill is used to authorize funding for the intelligence community, sets policy and authorizes resources for intelligence purposes. We bring this up because the only committee member to vote against the bill was Senator Ron Wyden (D-Ore), who later released a statement on why he did not vote for the bill - notably, that the FBI would be allowed to obtain Americans' email using only a national security letter, meaning it will now be able to access email without a court order.

While the intrusion of civil liberties is something that everyone lets the government get away with in today's society (as long as there are ample episodes of Keeping Up With the Kardashians on to keep people's mind occupied), it's nice to see that at least somebody is paying attention, let alone cares enough to warn the public about what is taking place.

Here is the full statement

Tuesday, May 24, 2016

Washington, D.C. –Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., today voted against the 2017 Intelligence Authorization Act in the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. The bill includes provisions to expand warrantless government surveillance and takes aim at a valuable independent oversight board.

“This bill takes a hatchet to important protections for Americans’ liberty,” Wyden said following the vote. “This bill would mean more government surveillance of Americans, less due process and less independent oversight of U.S. intelligence agencies. Worse, neither the intelligence agencies, nor the bill’s sponsors have shown any evidence that these changes would do anything to make Americans more secure. I plan to work with colleagues in both chambers to reverse these dangerous provisions.”

Wyden opposes multiple provisions to the bill, including;

-Allowing the FBI to obtain Americans’ email records with only a National Security Letter. Currently, the FBI can obtain email records in national security investigations with an order from the FISA Court. The bill would allow any FBI field office to demand email records without a court order, a major expansion of federal surveillance powers. The FBI can currently obtain phone records with a National Security Letter, but not email records.

-Narrowing the jurisdiction of the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board (PCLOB), for the second consecutive year.
The bill would limit the PCLOB to examining only programs that impact the privacy rights of U.S. citizens. Wyden has supported the PCLOB’s focus on the rights of US persons. Wyden opposed this provision, however, since global telecommunications networks can make it difficult to determine who is an American citizen, and this provision could discourage oversight of programs when the impact on Americans’ rights is unclear. Furthermore, continually restricting a small, independent oversight board sends the message that the board shouldn’t do its job too well.

The bill does include one proposal from Wyden, which would allow the PCLOB to hire staff even when the board’s Chair is vacant. Currently the PCLOB is prohibited from hiring staff unless a Senate-confirmed Chair is in place. This proposal is also included in separate bipartisan legislation introduced by Wyden and Representative Tulsi Gabbard, D-Hawaii. PCLOB Chairman David Medine is scheduled to step down on July 1.
  
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05-29-2016, 06:29 AM

A D trying to save liberty from the-gang-he-works-for's takeover.

One D.

No R.

It is here where partisan arguing can now begin (can't you just feel your statist heart racing faster and faster in anticipation of your furious partisan reply to this???), that only diverts attention away from THE point. Ready, set, go, azbers, go!!! Start typing furiously and indignantly.

But before you express support for your same non-solutions, let me throw in the obligatory liberty principle:

The state doesn't work as promised, folks. It really can't, due to its criminal nature, built-in to its Operating System, a integral part of it mechanism, its life-force, its only method of forcing obedience: violence.

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07-28-2016, 05:24 AM

US Government Pays $475,000 For Illegally Searching Woman's Vagina




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The rapists rape then the taxpayers pay.

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10-19-2016, 04:38 AM

Feds Walk Into A Building, Demand Everyone’s Fingerprints To Open Phones
October 18th, 2016


Via: Forbes:

In what’s believed to be an unprecedented attempt to bypass the security of Apple iPhones, or any smartphone that uses fingerprints to unlock, California’s top cops asked to enter a residence and force anyone inside to use their biometric information to open their mobile devices.

FORBES found a court filing, dated May 9 2016, in which the Department of Justice sought to search a Lancaster, California, property. But there was a more remarkable aspect of the search, as pointed out in the memorandum: “authorization to depress the fingerprints and thumbprints of every person who is located at the SUBJECT PREMISES during the execution of the search and who is reasonably believed by law enforcement to be the user of a fingerprint sensor-enabled device that is located at the SUBJECT PREMISES and falls within the scope of the warrant.” The warrant was not available to the public, nor were other documents related to the case.

According to the memorandum, signed off by U.S. attorney for the Central District of California Eileen Decker, the government asked for even more than just fingerprints: “While the government does not know ahead of time the identity of every digital device or fingerprint (or indeed, every other piece of evidence) that it will find in the search, it has demonstrated probable cause that evidence may exist at the search location, and needs the ability to gain access to those devices and maintain that access to search them. For that reason, the warrant authorizes the seizure of ‘passwords, encryption keys, and other access devices that may be necessary to access the device,’” the document read.

Legal experts were shocked at the government’s request. “They want the ability to get a warrant on the assumption that they will learn more after they have a warrant,” said Marina Medvin of Medvin Law. “Essentially, they are seeking to have the ability to convince people to comply by providing their fingerprints to law enforcement under the color of law – because of the fact that they already have a warrant. They want to leverage this warrant to induce compliance by people they decide are suspects later on. This would be an unbelievably audacious abuse of power if it were permitted.”
  
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11-14-2016, 08:32 AM

Thursday, October 13, 2016

They're at it again!


by The Sound Dollar Campaign

Dear,

Earlier this year, we told you how federal regulators had used Obamacare to sneak in tougher calorie-labeling requirements on products we enjoy each day. Things like deli counter subs, ice cream and even beer.

No doubt that this was another scheme by Washington to increase their powers over our lives ... take away our freedom of choice ... and push us closer to becoming a nanny state.

Now they're at it again.


And you only have until 11:59 p.m. Eastern, tomorrow, Oct. 14, to voice your concerns.

Communicable diseases on the rise ...

There have recent outbreaks of Ebola in West Africa, Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) in South Korea, and measles here at home.

If officials think you have a communicable disease, you can be taken into custody ...

And our government aims to prevent such diseases from coming into the U.S. and spreading throughout your community.

All that sounds good.

But you may not like their plan ...

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) wants to amend its domestic and foreign quarantine regulations.

You can read the full document here when you have some time. For now, since we're on a tight schedule, I'll give you three key points to ponder ...

Point #1—
Apprehension and detention

If officials think you have a communicable disease, you can be taken into custody for the purpose of determining whether quarantine, isolation or conditional release is warranted.

The CDC estimates that the evaluation time may last from 20 minutes to two hours. However, there is no maximum time limit on how long they can detain you.

According to the CDC's Q-and-A page, the proposed rule would not force you to receive vaccinations or any other medical treatment.

However, the actual document contains the following (emphasis is mine):


This proposed provision allows HHS/CDC to enter into an agreement with an individual, upon such terms as HHS/CDC considers to be reasonably necessary, indicating that the individual agrees to any of the public health measures authorized under this part, including quarantine, isolation, conditional release, medical examination, hospitalization, vaccination, and treatment; provided that the individual's agreement shall not be considered as a prerequisite to the exercise of the CDC's authority under this part.

Point #2—
Ongoing surveillance

After you are released, the CDC wants to monitor you through in-person visits by a public health official, via telephone, or with electronic or internet-based technology.

Such surveillance might include emails, texts, webcams, wearable tracking devices, or anything else determined necessary by the supervising health authority.

Point #3—
Power rests with non-medical personnel


How will TSA officers, flight attendants, cruise line staff, and border agents determine if your health is a threat to America?


The CDC put together a list of signs and symptoms that non-medically trained personnel should watch for:

Fever — 100.4 Fahrenheit and feels warm to the touch

Skin rash — Multiple red bumps; red, flat spots; or blister-like bumps filled with pus

Difficulty breathing — Gasping for air, breathing too fast

Persistent cough — Frequent and severe enough that it catches the attention of a crewmember or another passenger complains

Confusion — Individual not fully aware of their surroundings

Bruising or bleeding — Noticeable and unusual bruising or bleeding without explanation

Persistent diarrhea — But only if a crewmember notices or another passenger voices concern

Persistent vomiting — Upchucking at least two times (not due to air or sea sickness)

Headache with stiff neck — Passenger reports difficulty moving her neck

Obviously unwell.


You've surely had at least one of these symptoms during your lifetime. Now if the CDC gets its way, any of them could get you locked up.


For instance, have you ever stared at an airport arrival/departure board, confused as to which way to go for your connecting flight?

And how many times did you get a headache and stiff neck while putting up with a screaming kid kicking the back of your seat?

Dry cough? Hillary Clinton better stifle hers. And Donald Trump may want to sniffle a bit more quietly.


Congress out of the loop

Our Constitution established the legislative branch, Congress, to pass laws. But the CDC is apparently above all that.

They claim that the legal authority to isolate and quarantine are police power functions to protect society, which includes the ability to take away your right to choose what is best for your body. A Presidential Executive Order backs that up.

The CDC wants to hear from you on this regulation. You can post your comments here. But you only have one day left; Oct. 14 is the cutoff date.

While you're at it, contact your Senators and Representative. Tell them how you feel about the CDC's proposed new powers that are without Congressional oversight.

Let us know, too. Leave your thoughts on this article.

Sincerely,
The Sound Dollar Campaign

P.S. If you'd like to read more of our thoughts on freedom, the federal government, the people we elect to make decisions in our best interests, or to restore financial sanity in Washington then consider joining us over at the Sound Dollar Campaign where together we are making our voices heard loud and clear about these goals.
  
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12-28-2016, 06:11 AM

Government Destroys Couple's Rights Over Rainwater: "If You're Honest, They Take Everything Away"




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With each passing year, there are more and more challenges to personal property and individual sovereignty. Despite the resilience it lends to our national security, the government has proven again and again that it wishes to clamp down on the ability to prep, survive and self-sustain off grid, and without the need for the system’s supply chain.

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With each passing year, there are more and more challenges to personal property and individual sovereignty. Despite the resilience it lends to our national security, the government has proven again and again that it wishes to clamp down on the ability to prep, survive and self-sustain off grid, and without the need for the system’s supply chain.

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the county didn’t take issue with the pond until Jon sought to grow legal medical cannabis on the land
It seems that the new drug dealers who are trying to take over the whole business are mean and violent people who will stop at nothing to protect their new monopoly.

http://www.oregon.gov/olcc/marijuana...Questions.aspx

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Land Of The Free? Michigan Man Issued Parking Ticket In His Own Driveway


by Tyler Durden Jan 11, 2017 4:25 PM

Submitted by Simon Black via SovereignMan.com,

The state of Michigan is not exactly known for its balmy weather this time of year.

And residents reasonably do what they have to do to cope with often extreme winter temperatures.

Last Thursday a man named Taylor Trupiano of Roseville, Michigan did what a lot of people do in cold climates.

He walked out of his house, started his car, turned on the heat, and went back inside for a few minutes while his engine and vehicle interior warmed up.


According to Mr. Trupiano, he was only inside for about 7 or 8 minutes.

But by the time he came back to his car, there was already a parking ticket on his windshield– with a fine totaling $128.


Some local police officer had apparently driven by, noticed the vehicle was unattended, written up this heinous infraction, and left.

There are so many things wrong with this picture it’s hard to know where to begin.

First off, the citation that Mr. Trupiano received was a parking ticket. Yet his car was parked on his own private property.

Let that sink in: this man received a parking ticket while his car was parked on his own property.

You can’t even park your car on your own property anymore without being in violation of some series of laws, rules, or local ordinances.

The city government’s reasoning is that, if you leave a vehicle unattended, it may encourage car thieves to steal it.

This is pretty flimsy logic.

Sure, maybe if a car thief is standing right there he/she may take the opportunity.

But it’s not like some lowlife felon is going to turn the other cheek and stop stealing cars just because there are no unattended vehicles with the keys in the ignition.

Criminals bent on theft are going to steal no matter what, just like some murderous thug in Chicago is going to find a gun and kill people regardless of local firearm regulations.

When the story broke on local news, Roseville’s Police Chief told reporters that his department is unapologetic about issuing the citation to Mr. Trupiano.


Sounding like a man who cares more about statistics than actually catching criminals, the Chief claimed that 5-10 unattended vehicles are stolen every winter, which “drives our crime rates up.”

I looked at Roseville’s crime rates. They’re high. This is not a safe place.

With a population of less than 50,000, there are nearly 2,000 property crime incidents per year.

That includes at least a few hundred car thefts– which means that 5-10 vehicles is statistically trivial.

Clearly this issue of unattended vehicles is NOT the root of the problem.

And even if all the citizens of Roseville never again left their vehicles unattended, even on a cold winter day for just a few minutes to let the car warm up, it still wouldn’t make a dent in the larger crime rate.

But that doesn’t matter.

Roseville’s city government deals with its crime problem by establishing obscure regulations to restrict what law-abiding people are allowed to do in their own homes with their private property.

It doesn’t matter whether you are aware that these ridiculous rules even exist: ignorance of the law is not an excuse.

You’re probably in violation of half a dozen rules and regulations right now without even knowing about them.

Naturally, they’re all for your own good… to protect you against all the terrible choices that you might make as a grown adult.


Thank goodness these people are here to save us from ourselves! Of course, there’s always more work to do.

Speaking of statistically trivial risks, I read recently that falling vending machines kill a handful of people each year. Let’s get rid of them.

Roller coaster malfunctions claim 4 lives each year. Maybe they should ban those too.

Sugary drinks are clearly bad for you. Perhaps they should outlaw those, at least above a certain size.

Oh wait, they’re already trying to do that.

This is what freedom means today in the United Nanny States of America.
  
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01-12-2017, 05:49 AM

The man should ask for a jury trial.

See if his neighbors agree with the fine.


  
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