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08-08-2018, 07:47 PM

I had a very early Jensen that was an 18 thread, similar maple boxes


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08-08-2018, 07:53 PM

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I had a very early Jensen that was an 18 thread, similar maple boxes
As I said, it actually could be a very early attempt by a well known cuemaker, as there are some things that look very good, and some things, that, shall we say, are a bit experimental. Your guess is as good as anyone's.

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08-08-2018, 08:13 PM

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I go along with you most of the time. But, how does a bumper exert inward pressure on the buttcap upon the tenon, to keep the buttcap in place, in a location higher up than the bumper, without a screw in the tenon?

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That's the issue. It would not do it. I think with the bumper on you could grab and turn that butt cap easily. It's just not well done.

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08-08-2018, 08:51 PM

More pictures as requested. Kelly, the diameter of the buttsleeve is 1.253.
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08-08-2018, 08:56 PM

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That's the issue. It would not do it. I think with the bumper on you could grab and turn that butt cap easily. It's just not well done.

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I wouldnt do it that way either...Normally thats the socket cap screws job.. Regardless t looks like thats how this was done..

Edit: (To clarify, the screw goes into the tenon..... There ya go Hoot )


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08-09-2018, 03:39 AM

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08-09-2018, 08:08 AM

Could it be a Noneya cue?


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Could it be a Noneya cue?
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08-09-2018, 09:59 AM

He says it screws into the tenon, so why doubt that? Clear to see a demarcation where the threads aren't dirty and I'm assuming is the depth that goes into the tenon. Had to have enough tension to keep the cap from sliding around, which seems amazing given the construction. Would the bumper need anything at all to secure it if the fit was snug enough?
  
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08-09-2018, 10:32 AM

The butt cap tenon is glossy which would seem to indicate some sort of chemical adhesion. You can even see it in the grooves. Just because glues tend to not like to bond with delrin doesn't mean that a LOT of folks haven't tried. Hobbiest construction? Probably so. Finish over the delrin and glue on that tenon wouldn't be typical of the bigger makers. I keep going back to that forearm and REALLY wonder whether or not it's a Titleist conversion and the 2" rattle ring at the A-Joint is taking the place of the lower portion where the old point bottoms would have met. I asked that question earlier in the thread and it wasn't dismissed out of hand, which tells me that maybe it's a possibility.



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The butt cap tenon is glossy which would seem to indicate some sort of chemical adhesion. You can even see it in the grooves. Just because glues tend to not like to bond with delrin doesn't mean that a LOT of folks haven't tried. Hobbiest construction? Probably so. Finish over the delrin and glue on that tenon wouldn't be typical of the bigger makers. I keep going back to that forearm and REALLY wonder whether or not it's a Titleist conversion and the 2" rattle ring at the A-Joint is taking the place of the lower portion where the old point bottoms would have met. I asked that question earlier in the thread and it wasn't dismissed out of hand, which tells me that maybe it's a possibility.
" I didn't consider the front being from a Titlist Ö.
perhaps O P can sand the veneers a little,
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" I didn't consider the front being from a Titlist Ö.
perhaps O P can sand the veneers a little,
to determine Titlist POSSIBILITY ????
If it is a Titlist forearm then it looks like an ebony Titlist...really nice find if so.


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08-09-2018, 01:10 PM

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If it is a Titlist forearm then it looks like an ebony Titlist...really nice find if so.
" No....
I think NOT TITLIST FRONT....
The green/blue/aqua colored veneer is SECOND FROM THE OUSTIDE- IN TOWARD - THE SOLID POINT WOOD ON TITLISTS -
"This cue has the greenish colored veneer next to the natural colored veneer"
BUT The point-work looks Great to me....
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08-09-2018, 01:53 PM

I am going to sand it to bare wood and will post pictures when I do. When that will be Iím not sure but Iíll put my best man on it.
  
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" No....
I think NOT TITLIST FRONT....
The green/blue/aqua colored veneer is SECOND FROM THE OUSTIDE- IN TOWARD - THE SOLID POINT WOOD ON TITLISTS -
"This cue has the greenish colored veneer next to the natural colored veneer"
BUT The point-work looks Great to me....
Maybe a Szam' blank?
I haven't gone back to look so I couldn't say either way. But I did remember ebony points, and I agree, I thought they looked nice.

Szam? I dunno about that...but that would be a helluva find too.

It's a cool cue, worth fixing up. Nice project. I would improve that butt cap arrangement though.

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