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10-19-2019, 10:14 AM

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Maybe...

maybe not.

It's also commonly attributed to Feynman (and others).

Whoever said it, I agree with it (for most topics).

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It's primarily done with the eyes, gents !
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Thumbs up It's primarily done with the eyes, gents ! - 10-19-2019, 04:20 PM

When Stan Shuffett (the great coach of CTE aiming) teaches you how to REALLY use the eyes to fall dead on that shot line a whole new world opens up.
A world without "that looks like it will go"...."fractional and estimational gobbledy gook", and other outdated mumbo-jumbo.
Yep, in that new world you will still miss shots...BUT it won't because you aimed at the wrong place or depended on throw, deflections, english, guessing at fractions, 'what Mosconi said', what somebody heard Greenleaf did, or any other stuff. You will KNOW why you missed that shot. (you still better have a straight stroke, though)
Too bad for those who won't wake up to this.....they will pay the price for choosing ignorance.
  
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10-19-2019, 04:29 PM

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...doesn't pay you enough.

And you forgot to say "praise be unto Him".

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...doesn't pay you enough.

And you forgot to say "praise be unto Him".

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I think low is Stan.


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When Stan Shuffett (the great coach of CTE aiming) teaches you how to REALLY use the eyes to fall dead on that shot line a whole new world opens up.
A world without "that looks like it will go"...."fractional and estimational gobbledy gook", and other outdated mumbo-jumbo.
Yep, in that new world you will still miss shots...BUT it won't because you aimed at the wrong place or depended on throw, deflections, english, guessing at fractions, 'what Mosconi said', what somebody heard Greenleaf did, or any other stuff. You will KNOW why you missed that shot. (you still better have a straight stroke, though)
Too bad for those who won't wake up to this.....they will pay the price for choosing ignorance.
You sure can talk it up..lets see it on video .

Choosing ignorance??? Explain will you.


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10-19-2019, 11:35 PM

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When Stan Shuffett (the great coach of CTE aiming) teaches you how to REALLY use the eyes to fall dead on that shot line a whole new world opens up.
A world without "that looks like it will go"...."fractional and estimational gobbledy gook", and other outdated mumbo-jumbo.
Yep, in that new world you will still miss shots...BUT it won't because you aimed at the wrong place or depended on throw, deflections, english, guessing at fractions, 'what Mosconi said', what somebody heard Greenleaf did, or any other stuff. You will KNOW why you missed that shot. (you still better have a straight stroke, though)
Too bad for those who won't wake up to this.....they will pay the price for choosing ignorance.
In bold....those words describe how CTE pro1 works.
What do you think "REALLY use the eyes" means?
Lol.

That's all the "truth" that anyone needs to know. Every aiming method is based on WHAT LOOKS RIGHT, or as Stan says...."The eyes lead and the body follows."


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10-20-2019, 05:57 AM

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...doesn't pay you enough.

And you forgot to say "praise be unto Him".

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Didn't think you knew anything about religion, you should continue your training in it. Just my opinion though.
  
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10-20-2019, 05:58 AM

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In bold....those words describe how CTE pro1 works.
What do you think "REALLY use the eyes" means?
Lol.

That's all the "truth" that anyone needs to know. Every aiming method is based on WHAT LOOKS RIGHT, or as Stan says...."The eyes lead and the body follows."
But every method uses a different way to get there, some more effectively then others
  
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10-20-2019, 06:29 AM

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But every method uses a different way to get there, some more effectively then others
WTF? Cookie said a real thing!

Except I'd say effectiveness depends mostly on how well your system "fits" you.

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The revolution is at hand...... - 10-20-2019, 06:40 AM

When a pool shooter comes out of the dark ages by learning CTE ProOne and discovers how to REALLY use the eyes to fall precisely on that shot line, a whole new world opens up. A world that most never, ever, will enjoy....due to their closed minds.
Too bad for those who won't wake up to this (some who are very intelligent with books, math, and geometry).....but alas, how easily things go wrong. They will pay the price for choosing ignorance.
  
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10-20-2019, 07:58 AM

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WTF? Cookie said a real thing!

Except I'd say effectiveness depends mostly on how well your system "fits" you.

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Obviously the system should fit you. But the effectiveness depends on a lot more then that.
  
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Obviously the system should fit you. But the effectiveness depends on a lot more then that.
HAMB for instance. You are just hoping that your memory pulls out the shot picture where you actually made the ball instead of the shot picture where you miss the ball. That's not a good enough system for me.
  
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But every method uses a different way to get there, some more effectively then others
True. However, that final line in every system/method is determined by what looks right, just like the pre-pivot/sweep line in CTE.

Regardless of which system or method you use, when you're down looking through or directly at ccb (or that perfect halftip offset) you must make fine adjustments/tweaks to ensure your stroke is on the line that looks right. As Stan says here (https://youtu.be/6Dgsn2xaif0?t=150s), the amount of tweaking used on any given CTE shot is or should be equivalent to that used on any straight in shot. In other words, you use your eyes (like everyone does, regardless of which system you use) to determine where your cue should be when you drop down on the shot, and you make it fit in accordance with what your eyes are seeing. This is where experience comes in. Without experience you really won't have that feeling or knowledge that your body and stroke are dead on line with what you are seeing.


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True. However, that final line in every system/method is determined by what looks right, just like the pre-pivot/sweep line in CTE.

Regardless of which system or method you use, when you're down looking through or directly at ccb (or that perfect halftip offset) you must make fine adjustments/tweaks to ensure your stroke is on the line that looks right. As Stan says here (https://youtu.be/6Dgsn2xaif0?t=150s), the amount of tweaking used on any given CTE shot is or should be equivalent to that used on any straight in shot. In other words, you use your eyes (like everyone does, regardless of which system you use) to determine where your cue should be when you drop down on the shot, and you make it fit in accordance with what your eyes are seeing. This is where experience comes in. Without experience you really won't have that feeling or knowledge that your body and stroke are dead on line with what you are seeing.
Funny thing is why bring up CTE. We were talking in general terms and you go to a system that you have proven that you know very little about.. Why not talk about poolology as it relates to our conversation?
  
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