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Talking Purple Rain - 11-22-2019, 07:11 AM

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Are they aggressively promoting that purple ball ?

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11-22-2019, 07:20 AM

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Tyranny!
Ball changin' without representation!
Our English oppressors are at it again.
I say we throw those balls in the Bellagio Harbor.

Iím having a hard time believing that Ivan Lee approved these colors (specifically the 5/13 balls) prior to them being designed and developed. I am more inclined to believe that it was done, and he had to spin it. Iím sure be has something to say on this.

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11-22-2019, 07:21 AM

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Are they aggressively promoting that purple ball ?

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11-22-2019, 07:26 AM

I just found Dr Dave’s info, very similar.
This has been around for a hundred years, I made a presentation on billiard curiosities 20 years ago,
and included this in my talk....
along with history of first leather tip, why the height of table, why the color of felt, why the ball size, tip/shaft size,
history on markers on the rails, why cues are spliced, first billiard table in the USA, and a whole lot more.
I’ve known since the 1960s.
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11-22-2019, 08:03 AM

No matter what colors/set they use, only Mark Wilson will make the effort to get them right and correct his co-commentator. With few exceptions, the others will just take a stab at it and hope they guessed right. The way it's been and likely to be.

I'm no different. From home I'm always clueless on a minimum of 2-5 balls (3,4,5,6,&8). Dont even mention straight pool and the 10 thru the 15.
  
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11-22-2019, 09:08 AM

Roman Numerals:
I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X, XI, XII, XIII, XIV, XV

or, just write out the words in place of color or numerals:

ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, TEN, ELEVEN,
TWELVE, THIRTEEN, FOURTEEN, FIFTEEN

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11-22-2019, 09:14 AM

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or, just write out the words in place of color or numerals:

ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, TEN, ELEVEN,
TWELVE, THIRTEEN, FOURTEEN, FIFTEEN.
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11-22-2019, 09:33 AM

I agree.. it wonít stop me from watching a match or going to a pool hall that has them but at the end of the day they are trying to sell them to home table owners also and that where I think theyíve missed their mark. I could be wrong but I donít see them flying out the door.


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11-22-2019, 10:06 AM

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They aren't my cup of tea, but they're just pool balls folks. It's not the end of the world.
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11-22-2019, 11:51 AM

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It wonít stop me from watching an event..but Iím not rushing out to buy a set for my home either
I am guessing its this statement that gets under most peoples skin rather than the actual color of the balls.

"Ms. Frazier said on the stream yesterday that this is the set going forward on all matchroom events and players will either have to adapt or be left in the past. Her comments were very final, frank, and forgive me, but somewhat elitist. With all her playing knowledge and all."

After all, we will decide if we like the new colors by how sets of these balls everybody buys, I have a hard time believing they are going to be a hot seller.
  
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11-22-2019, 12:01 PM

Those are the ugliest pool balls I've seen.

What the hell were they thinking? We're they thinking?


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11-22-2019, 12:13 PM

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BALL COLORS

I know that most know this, but here is how the original colors of pool balls were determined:

1. The first three balls (1,2,3) are PRIMARY colors....yellow, blue and red.
They occur with maximum separation on the color wheel so as to provide maximum contrast.

2. The next three balls are all SECONDARY colors, comprised strictly of combined primary colors.
Four is purple = red + blue
Five is orange = red + yellow
Six is green = blue + yellow
These secondary colors also provide maximum separation and contrast on the color wheel.

3. The next ball (seven) is a TERTIARY color, comprised of a primary and secondary color.
Seven is maroon = red (primary) + purple (secondary).

4. The cue ball (white) and eight ball (black) are the presence of all colors and no colors.

5. The Nine through Fifteen balls repeat the colors of the 1 through 7 except as striped balls.

The colors may have been originally established by leveraging colors of croquet balls.

Whew, sorry!
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By the way, I am a big fan of the traditional colors.

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I never knew that, great stuff Wil. I knew there was a reason Iíve liked you so much all these years. Super sharp!!

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11-22-2019, 12:33 PM

Aramith released a statement about the balls:

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Anticipating the need to better discern the balls on small screen devices, we developed a light purple to replace orange and a lighter green to replace the darker one, only in the new Aramith Tournament BLACK set. The pink 4-ball having become the reference in official tournaments with the Aramith Tournament TV set, we could not use the light purple for the 4-ball which would have been closer to tradition.
  
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BALL COLORS

I know that most know this, but here is how the original colors of pool balls were determined:

1. The first three balls (1,2,3) are PRIMARY colors....yellow, blue and red.
They occur with maximum separation on the color wheel so as to provide maximum contrast.

2. The next three balls are all SECONDARY colors, comprised strictly of combined primary colors.
Four is purple = red + blue
Five is orange = red + yellow
Six is green = blue + yellow
These secondary colors also provide maximum separation and contrast on the color wheel.

3. The next ball (seven) is a TERTIARY color, comprised of a primary and secondary color.
Seven is maroon = red (primary) + purple (secondary).

4. The cue ball (white) and eight ball (black) are the presence of all colors and no colors.

5. The Nine through Fifteen balls repeat the colors of the 1 through 7 except as striped balls.

The colors may have been originally established by leveraging colors of croquet balls.

Whew, sorry!
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11-22-2019, 02:14 PM

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Isn't that from Dr. Dave?

It explains what they are, but not "how" they came to be or why.

The last sentence is more to the "how". Some say snooker colors were taken from croquet colors, which may have originally had something to do with primary colors, but may have been taken from some other source for a different reason. Hard to find definitive answers.

Pool ball colors seem to be more derivative of colors of balls from other games, than specifically chosen for the purpose of playing pool for any reason related to primary colors or contrast.
I’m sure the good doctor has this somewhere on his site, but it’s been on the internet forums since mid 90’s. And I’m sure it wasnt just us engineers and computer that suddenly figured it out. It’s probably in an obscure book from a hundred years ago.

We even have had internet “discussions” on why brown is the logical choice for the tertiary 7-ball.


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