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11-21-2019, 10:01 PM

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I mostly play 9 or 10 ball.
I play 8 ball with friends and family.
One pocket is my favorite. But its such long chess match type of game. Most skilled players only want to gamble and one pocket is to slow to make fast money.
Bank is ok. I struggle most with position bank game.
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11-21-2019, 10:02 PM

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From what I understand, you take one of those skill test letís say the BU and if you score at the top then BOOM! Youíre a pro and can even get a piece of paper to prove it
I watch some of his videos on you tube.
I might have to try it.

I use the playing ghost in 10 ball to see where I stand.


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11-21-2019, 10:51 PM

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I watch some of his videos on you tube.
I might have to try it.

I use the playing ghost in 10 ball to see where I stand.
IMO, of all rotation games, 10 ball is the best one to measure your skill at ghost play because it's break changes everything, unlike 9 ball where your just about guaranteed 1 or 2 balls on every break. Then, your only playing 6, 7 or 8 balls. And with ball in hand, thats not much of a test for intermediate to advanced players.

Don't know your level of play but, I would start with 10 ball and BIH.

BTW, have you ever played ghost play? When I first joined AZB, I had no idea what playing the ghost meant.

Also, there is a ghost challenge section where everyone records their ghost sets and posts them in the thread.

It's fun, give it a whirl.

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11-22-2019, 11:02 AM

The way i play ghost may not be correct. Just what more advanced player told me to do to measure skill.
I rack 10 racks of 10 ball. Break give my self ball in hand. run to i miss. Assume ghost will not miss you lose. Count balls ran in 10 racks. Last gauge was around 60%. I was told pros shot 90%
After reading on bu last night. I need try balls pocket vs errors. It sounded like if run to 6 miss finish rack. How many attempts it takes run rack.
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11-22-2019, 11:12 AM

Brizzle, the AZ Ghost thread is a sticky on the main forum. Check it out, itís a lot of fun
  
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Support yourself only from playing pool.
Then for the most part, pro pool is dead.

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Then for the most part, pro pool is dead.

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This is why I consider it only a Skill Level (like D - A)...
  
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11-22-2019, 12:23 PM

Go win.

You’ll know when you get there or if you don’t. Takes a couple years to answer the question out in the real world. But when you do reach the answer(the OP) it be VERY clear to you.

I know that’s not a answer to the OP, it’s a conclusion based on experience which I feel is the most accurate way to address that OP.

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11-22-2019, 12:33 PM

Win a local pool hall tournament. Then go to a regional and win that. Then go to the DCC and cash in the 9 Ball. It is kind of a bummer because what typically gets people a Fargo is done on bar tables with the BCA so translating that to a 9 foot? I don't know, I'm not Mike Page.
  
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11-22-2019, 04:27 PM

This is being made to sound way to complicated but, it's a real easy fix.

Go and play a known current pro for some cash. Play even, no spot and then play again.

After ^^^^^^.........do vvvvvvvvv:

Go and find yet another pro. Play them even for some cash.

^^^^^^^^^^^

Is the fastest way to know if you can play pro speed.......no tournament needed.

One thing, make sure the bet is enough to make the pro not try to string you along.

Example:

I can beat the 9 and 10 ball ghost to death with BIH but:

when I played Warren K. in 1hole, he beat me 3 out of 5 sets playing even. $200 a set....it was brutal.

I played Josh Roberts even 1hole....another brutal lesson. But, I was able to beat him at 10 ball. He beat me out of $1,200 at 1hole and lost $1,500 back to me at 10 ball.

I played Danny Smith 10 ball only. Lost $600 over three sets and then, the next day, we played again and I won $400 of it back at $200 a set.

I played casper the same day. I put up $300 against his BK Rush break cue. I won his break cue.

Point is:

I can play pro speed on "some days".....at "some games".....but, that doesn't make me a pro. A true pro can play all games at pro speeds everyday.

Find out when and where they are playing. Go there....ask them to get in box. I promise, they will not turn you away as long as you dont ask for weight for cheap.

Get in the box, find out what you got.

Ghkst play is fun but, like I said, it is misleading to your true total game speed.

YMMV, I doubt but, it may,

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11-22-2019, 04:47 PM

For the low price of $49.99 I can send you a lovely certificate proclaiming you to be a professional pool player. Free shipping and handling.
  
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11-22-2019, 04:57 PM

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Go win.

Youíll know when you get there or if you donít. Takes a couple years to answer the question out in the real world. But when you do reach the answer(the OP) it be VERY clear to you.

I know thatís not a answer to the OP, itís a conclusion based on experience which I feel is the most accurate way to address that OP.

Good luck out there,
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I agree but, it didn't take me but three or four different tournaments. I didn't play in the tournaments but, I played pros as they got put out. They looked at me like I was crazy when I ask for head up action for a couple hundred a set.......free lunch..

What I found is what I pretty much already knew. I'm still a weak shorty no matter how much I practice or what game I play.

Sure, I've beat a few pros for somewhat cheap sets but, there is NO WAY IN HELL I could hang with them on a regular basis.

While playing Sky woodward in a race to 15 for $400....10 ball.....I was up 9 to 3. LOLLOLOLOL I dogged a ball and didn't get another shot.

He ask me to play again...lol... I said no. He then said he would give me the last three....lol....still a BIG no.

It was fun to watch him burn it up though.

OP needs to put a ghost vid up and let some of us give honest opinions before he goes out and maybe or maybe not waste a chunk of change.

Than again, lose or win, when playing really strong players it's a win/win as long as you can afford it because it is a very quick way to be measured.

They told me I had been weighed and measured and that I had been found wanting......

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11-22-2019, 05:34 PM

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The way i play ghost may not be correct. Just what more advanced player told me to do to measure skill.
I rack 10 racks of 10 ball. Break give my self ball in hand. run to i miss. Assume ghost will not miss you lose. Count balls ran in 10 racks. Last gauge was around 60%. I was told pros shot 90%
After reading on bu last night. I need try balls pocket vs errors. It sounded like if run to 6 miss finish rack. How many attempts it takes run rack.
I will look for forums gauge on playing ghost.
If you have to ask what a pro is, you have a ways to go before you can beat good players. If you can run 6 balls (60% of 10) with ball in hand on average, that makes you about a B or B+ player. I am a B+ player (at leas that is what I rank myself as) and I can beat the 7 ball ghost most of the time. Have not really tried the 8 ball ghost. That is you rack 7 balls, break with ball in hand after break. If you run out, you win, if you don't run out, the ghost wins. If you can beat the ghost in a race to 10 that way say 75% of the time, you can beat the 7 ball ghost. An A- player should be able to beat the 7 or 8 ball ghost as well. The pros play 10,11,12 ball ghost where they beat the ghost with that many balls on the table. This is on a 9 foot table with 4.5" or about there pockets. if you do this on a 7 footer with large pockets, or even a 9 footer with large pockets, the results will be higher than your real skill. 5" pockets may be a bit too large in my opinion to test skill, I have played against may players that I beat that just kept missing on a 4.5" pocket just enough where on a 5" pocket the ball may have gone, it's because they can't aim at the largest opening and keep aiming at the edge of the pocket.


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11-22-2019, 06:26 PM

How does one get pro status? - Yesterday, 09:09 PM

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11-22-2019, 06:31 PM

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Win a local pool hall tournament. Then go to a regional and win that. Then go to the DCC and cash in the 9 Ball. It is kind of a bummer because what typically gets people a Fargo is done on bar tables with the BCA so translating that to a 9 foot? I don't know, I'm not Mike Page.
So long as the player actually PLAYS on both size tables, it translates just fine.


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