how are ya'll doing in league ?

Banks · Mar 3, 2014

Over the weekend, playing 8b, I beat a 7, lost to a 6, beat a couple of 5's, another couple of 7's, a 4, another 7, a 3 and then lost to a 7. There may have been another 6 or something in there, too, or more. I kinda lost track. Got 2 8's in on the break in a row to start out one match and then finished another with 3 bnr's. All in all, I feel that I comfortably covered the spectrum of my playing, from good to bad. We had a full double-elim tournament with 120 people. I got to play at the new Kolby's in Keizer, near Salem. We had 60 people to play full APA 8b races on 8 Diamond boxes. :thud: Fortunately, the second day it was down to 32 people total, so the matches were going real quick.

DAVE_M · Mar 3, 2014

Spimp13 said:
Nice! Yeah my 5 point break included the 9 so it was really 4 balls dropped...I like prop bets as well to keep things interesting. After I did a similar to Happy Gilmore quote saying I should just try to do that every time!

Yeah for some reason just seeing 4-5 drop is pretty darn cool...sooo I am definitely going for 6 points (even if it just means 5 balls including the 9) this Thursday...not sure what goal I can do for 8 ball since I have an 8 snap, rackless patch, and break and run patch so far coming. I'll have to think about it...thoughts 2-pack Dave?

I had my 5 point break a few weeks ago and I scratched; Yay 5 dead balls! It was one of those slow rolling breaks where they all trickle in one after another.

My best for 8-ball was 6 balls on the break and being able to get out. I've made 7 on the break on a valley, but was hooked from the get go :frown: Those damn 2 packs annoy me, I've set my goal as 3 games in 1 inning ( 2 BnR's and play a safety, get BIH, and run out). It's about as close as I'll get to a 3 pack :thumbup:

frankncali · Mar 3, 2014

Banks said:
Over the weekend, playing 8b, I beat a 7, lost to a 6, beat a couple of 5's, another couple of 7's, a 4, another 7, a 3 and then lost to a 7. There may have been another 6 or something in there, too, or more. I kinda lost track. Got 2 8's in on the break in a row to start out one match and then finished another with 3 bnr's. All in all, I feel that I comfortably covered the spectrum of my playing, from good to bad. We had a full double-elim tournament with 120 people. I got to play at the new Kolby's in Keizer, near Salem. We had 60 people to play full APA 8b races on 8 Diamond boxes. :thud: Fortunately, the second day it was down to 32 people total, so the matches were going real quick.

Sounds fun
I used to put on 2-3 APA tourneys at local places and always seemed to have good turnouts and events. 120 people is a big tournament and even 60 needs plenty of tables
and an establishment that will let you in.
Just curious was there added $$ or what were entries.
Thinking I might do another tournament or two since I have gotten back into playing.

Spimp13 · Mar 3, 2014

Speaking of packs I remember after I got done with pool school the very first time out I went out with a few buddies and just beat the absolute piss out of them. There was one point where I broke and ran 4 out of 5 games of 8 ball.....to the point where they were laughing begging for a shot...sigh I haven't shot like that since that night

frankncali · Mar 3, 2014

Last week was a league night I would assume forget. BCA 8 ball Won 5 of 9 games but really didn't play well and never felt good at any point. Our team won and it was against the 1st place team so we are now currently in 1st. That was good but I have to play better down the road.
Tonight is a new night and hopefully I can get there a little early to try and get in gear.

Here is a league related question..

How do you personally deal with a player that doesn't appear to want timeouts but is losing some games because he is not learning or taking the TOs?

Do you just let them go on their own?
Its been frustrating for a couple of us to watch a person generally always take the harder out when there is a choice. Sometimes he gets out sometimes not but the decisions don't seem to be changing. His winning % would be up at least 25% or more with a couple simple concepts.

Banks · Mar 3, 2014

frankncali said:
Sounds fun
I used to put on 2-3 APA tourneys at local places and always seemed to have good turnouts and events. 120 people is a big tournament and even 60 needs plenty of tables
and an establishment that will let you in.
Just curious was there added $$ or what were entries.
Thinking I might do another tournament or two since I have gotten back into playing.

Not sure what was added, but it was $35 to enter and we had to pay 75c a rack. (Ouch.) I ended up, I think, maybe 7-8th or 9-12th and got $150. All participants also get a t-shirt. It was pretty fun and I got to play a few players from a different LO's territory. Also talked a bit to my own LO and discussed my plans for Diamondizing my usual bar.

frankncali said:
How do you personally deal with a player that doesn't appear to want timeouts but is losing some games because he is not learning or taking the TOs?

Do you just let them go on their own?
Its been frustrating for a couple of us to watch a person generally always take the harder out when there is a choice. Sometimes he gets out sometimes not but the decisions don't seem to be changing. His winning % would be up at least 25% or more with a couple simple concepts.

Well, first it makes me frustrated and then I just try to blow it off and let them do their thing. Sucks when you know you see something and they either don't want to do it or they screw it up and you know they think it's your fault they lost. Not as bad as a past teammate and friend that would get all pissy if you took a timeout, especially(!!!) if it didn't work. Most of the time I'll just sit back and watch now, unless I know the person is okay with it.

Spimp13 said:
Speaking of packs I remember after I got done with pool school the very first time out I went out with a few buddies and just beat the absolute piss out of them. There was one point where I broke and ran 4 out of 5 games of 8 ball.....to the point where they were laughing begging for a shot...sigh I haven't shot like that since that night

You never said you got lessons.. now I know I need a spot!

justadub · Mar 3, 2014

Spimp13 said:
Nice! Yeah my 5 point break included the 9 so it was really 4 balls dropped...I like prop bets as well to keep things interesting. After I did a similar to Happy Gilmore quote saying I should just try to do that every time!

Yeah for some reason just seeing 4-5 drop is pretty darn cool...sooo I am definitely going for 6 points (even if it just means 5 balls including the 9) this Thursday...not sure what goal I can do for 8 ball since I have an 8 snap, rackless patch, and break and run patch so far coming. I'll have to think about it...thoughts 2-pack Dave?

Me and three guys on my team are all trying to be the first on our team (and in our division) to win a newer award that our LO created, he calls it the Hat Trick. It's a baseball cap with Hat Trick on it, and the three things that are required. Something that isn't a patch!

In one session, 8-on-the-break, break and run, and rack and run. You can probly do it in one night

Our 7 has two of the three, and the rest of us have one leg, after 5 weeks. We have 10 more weeks to go.

I hate trying the second row break, so I try to get up in my match and then try that.

Spimp13 · Mar 3, 2014

justadub said:
Me and three guys on my team are all trying to be the first on our team (and in our division) to win a newer award that our LO created, he calls it the Hat Trick. It's a baseball cap with Hat Trick on it, and the three things that are required. Something that isn't a patch!

In one session, 8-on-the-break, break and run, and rack and run. You can probly do it in one night

Our 7 has two of the three, and the rest of us have one leg, after 5 weeks. We have 10 more weeks to go.

I hate trying the second row break, so I try to get up in my match and then try that.

What do you mean on the third part (rack and run)...do you mean you rack, they break dry, and then you run out? If that's the case then yes after last Thursday's 8 ball snap I got the hat trick boom!! Now for 9 ball I probably won't be doing prop bets outside of the 6 on the break since I don't want to move up from being a 7

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lorider · Mar 3, 2014

frankncali said:
Last week was a league night I would assume forget. BCA 8 ball Won 5 of 9 games but really didn't play well and never felt good at any point. Our team won and it was against the 1st place team so we are now currently in 1st. That was good but I have to play better down the road.
Tonight is a new night and hopefully I can get there a little early to try and get in gear.

Here is a league related question..

How do you personally deal with a player that doesn't appear to want timeouts but is losing some games because he is not learning or taking the TOs?

Do you just let them go on their own?
Its been frustrating for a couple of us to watch a person generally always take the harder out when there is a choice. Sometimes he gets out sometimes not but the decisions don't seem to be changing. His winning % would be up at least 25% or more with a couple simple concepts.

team mates that don't want time outs?

man i could write a book on that subject. i have 2- 3's " very poor 3's" that very seldom call time outs and don't want time outs called on them.

one 3 is a 65 year old man. we are in the playoffs and he is on the 8 ball. its obvious he is gonna try to bank it instead of cutting it. my co captain gets up and calls time out. my player waves him off and attempts the bank which he missed and scratched in the side pocket.

i call my player aside and asked what was all that about. he said he thought he could make it and did not need a time out. i said well you not only missed the shot , you also scratched and lost the match. i said its obvious you thought wrong. i told him i knew he wanted to win and that we all wanted him to win and that was why a time out was called because we saw he was making a mistake.

i told him my co captain was a 7/9 for a reason and that if he ever called a time out not to ever refuse it again. he said ok.

my other 3 is my g/f. i aint going into all thae drama that occurs when i call a time out on her.

to avoid all the drama we just let them play their game during regular session. during play offs or higher i tell them me and my co captain will be watching and call time outs when we think they need one.

i think it works better that way. they play their regular game during the session and play a whole lot better in play offs under our coaching.

lorider · Mar 3, 2014

justadub said:
Me and three guys on my team are all trying to be the first on our team (and in our division) to win a newer award that our LO created, he calls it the Hat Trick. It's a baseball cap with Hat Trick on it, and the three things that are required. Something that isn't a patch!

In one session, 8-on-the-break, break and run, and rack and run. You can probly do it in one night

Our 7 has two of the three, and the rest of us have one leg, after 5 weeks. We have 10 more weeks to go.

I hate trying the second row break, so I try to get up in my match and then try that.

the rack and run you are referring to i take it as you meaning a rackless?

there is a patch for making an 8 on the break, a break and run , and a rackless all in one match. it is called a mini slam. and yea i have one.:grin-square:

justadub · Mar 3, 2014

Spimp13 said:
What do you mean on the third part (rack and run)...do you mean you rack, they break dry, and then you run out? If that's the case then yes after last Thursday's 8 ball snap I got the hat trick boom!! Now for 9 ball I probably won't be doing prop bets outside of the 6 on the break since I don't want to move up from being a 7 .

Yes, that is what we call a Rack and Run. There is a patch for it, of course...

As lorider points out in his reply (can't multi quote for some reason), this must be what you guys call "rackless"? The reference is lost on me, heh heh.

So yeah, I'm not surprised that you did the whole Hat Trick in one night, Spimp...me, I'll see if I can manage the damned thing in one session. That 8-on-the-break will bedevil me. I'm more confident in getting a Break and Run than to get the 8 on the break. (I got the Rack and Run a few weeks ago. Usually considered the rarest among us here.)

justadub · Mar 3, 2014

So, my being the inquistive fella that I am, I looked up the "rackless" award, which is not what we call a Rack and Run.

As Spimp mentioned in his reply to me, a Rack and Run is where you rack, the opponent breaks dry, and then you run the table.

According to the quick search I did, the "Rackless" award is when you win the lag, and then every game thereafter, meaning you never racked in the match. Pretty cool. We don't track or receive that award here. I actually did it in a 9-ball match last session, which seems much harder to me than in 8-ball...

Interesting stuff...

Spimp13 · Mar 3, 2014

justadub said:
So, my being the inquistive fella that I am, I looked up the "rackless" award, which is not what we call a Rack and Run.

As Spimp mentioned in his reply to me, a Rack and Run is where you rack, the opponent breaks dry, and then you run the table.

According to the quick search I did, the "Rackless" award is when you win the lag, and then every game thereafter, meaning you never racked in the match. Pretty cool. We don't track or receive that award here. I actually did it in a 9-ball match last session, which seems much harder to me than in 8-ball...

Interesting stuff...

Yeah, I am getting a rackless patch, not the rack and run...so I didn't accomplish the hat trick quite yet! Maybe that will be a goal for 8...I don't go for 8 ball breaks though so maybe putting together a 2 pack will be more realistic goal. 9 ball sticking with the 6 point attempts

DAVE_M · Mar 3, 2014

Spimp13 said:
Yeah, I am getting a rackless patch, not the rack and run...so I didn't accomplish the hat trick quite yet! Maybe that will be a goal for 8...I don't go for 8 ball breaks though so maybe putting together a 2 pack will be more realistic goal. 9 ball sticking with the 6 point attempts

Lately, I've only been using my player to break for 8ball. I just spin it off the second ball. The last few times I've been breaking hard, I haven't been making squat.

I'm going visit my parents tomorrow and play with some local guys in town. Hopefully I can play worth a damn. I'm coming off a 5-0 loss in 8ball and an 18-2 win in 9ball lol.

hang-the-9 · Mar 3, 2014

This looks to be an ongoing thread, when I first saw how long it was I though it was either about the APA or women players.

Since I'm doing well in league so far, I'll add to it LOL.

I have a Wed night 10 ball Masters team with my son (invitation only, should be a decent player or at least interested in the game, meaning if you don't know what a 3 foul rule is or what a push shot foul is, stay away), and was also with my brother in law but he's not allowed to play out on orders from the wife. A good friend of mine took his place but injured his back so has not played this season at all yet.

Right now I'm ranked 2 of 35 players in our Wed night 10 ball Masters league in total points (1520 number bellow), which not only counts how well you play but also how many times you played. The guy on top played in 2 more matches that me, 8 weeks to my 6.

5 wins in 6 matches (the top ranked guy has the same 5 wins but in 8 matches), 1 break and run, 2 wins with opponent at 0 points, 1 run out from opponents dry break.
72% rack win ratio, won 29 lost 11 racks.

This is only about 1/3 way though so I have plenty of time to start messing up LOL

2 Veteran 77 1520 5 579 6 1 2 1

The team is 4th place with a 3 win 3 loss record.

lorider · Mar 3, 2014

hang-the-9 said:
This looks to be an ongoing thread, when I first saw how long it was I though it was either about the APA or women players.

Since I'm doing well in league so far, I'll add to it LOL.

I have a Wed night 10 ball Masters team with my son (invitation only, should be a decent player or at least interested in the game, meaning if you don't know what a 3 foul rule is or what a push shot foul is, stay away), and was also with my brother in law but he's not allowed to play out on orders from the wife. A good friend of mine took his place but injured his back so has not played this season at all yet.

Right now I'm ranked 2 of 35 players in our Wed night 10 ball Masters league in total points (1520 number bellow), which not only counts how well you play but also how many times you played. The guy on top played in 2 more matches that me, 8 weeks to my 6.

5 wins in 6 matches (the top ranked guy has the same 5 wins but in 8 matches), 1 break and run, 2 wins with opponent at 0 points, 1 run out from opponents dry break.
72% rack win ratio, won 29 lost 11 racks.

This is only about 1/3 way though so I have plenty of time to start messing up LOL

2 Veteran 77 1520 5 579 6 1 2 1

The team is 4th place with a 3 win 3 loss record.

welcome to the thread. good shooting btw.

its just a thread for all league players to come in and brag about a good night....or to vent about a bad one lol.

actually any topic related to league play is welcome.

gxman · Mar 3, 2014

Are most of these leagues on bar box, 8ft, or 9ft?

Leagues at my pool hall(16 -8ft', 2 7', 2 -9ft) is on 8ft. I work evenings/nights, so I really dont have time to join.

lorider · Mar 3, 2014

gxman said:
Are most of these leagues on bar box, 8ft, or 9ft?

Leagues at my pool hall(16 -8ft', 2 7', 2 -9ft) is on 8ft. I work evenings/nights, so I really dont have time to join.

interesting question. i hope every one chimes in and give you an answer for their area.

as for me. all my napa matches are on bar boxes in a pool hall.

my 8 ball travel league is a mix of bars and pool halls and all are bar boxes.

my double jeapordy league is 80 % on bar boxes and 20 % 9' gold crowns at a pool hall. we have more teams than bar box tables available that night so every week different teams rotate playing on the 9's.

i hope every one that chimes in mentions whether they play in bars or pool halls or both during league. i think that would be interesting to know also.

i do know justa dub plays strictly on 9's but i don't know if its a pool hall or a bar.

Rackemep · Mar 3, 2014

Everything in my area is bar boxes in bars...our closest pool room is about an hour and a half away (that's also the closest 9' tables)

justadub · Mar 4, 2014

As lorider noted, we play on 9's here. Virtually the entire state of Maine plays on 9-footers, there is just one room to my knowledge that has any amount of 7's. (Tho there is a bar about 35 miles away with two 7-foot valleys that had a team for one session.) Of course, we have our state APA tournament in the room with the 7-footers, "cuz thats what you'll play on in Vegas..." except that these are Diamonds, heh heh.

We don't have a pool room proper here in Bangor. We play APA in two places here. The primary place is a sports entertainment complex, with a 20-lane bowling alley, arcade with ski ball, mini golf outside and sports bar with TV's everywhere. 17 nine foot tables, kept reasonably well considering the clientele.

The other place that we play out of is a private fraternal club, The Eagles, with five 9-foot Olhausens, also kept reasonably well. As its a fraternal club, the prices to play (and to drink, heh heh) are VERY reasonable.

There are two bars in the area that have had teams over the years, not regularly, but once in a while. Both kinda dumpy, with the usual clientele, but not bad. One of them has three 9-footers, the other has two 9-footers and three 8-footers. All coin op, but kept open during league play. Not well kept tables, but I expect that some of you folks play on far worse, these are at least predictable.

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