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01-16-2019, 01:03 PM

tHAT CUEBALL TOOK AN EPIC MASSE !!!


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01-16-2019, 01:11 PM

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I think I figured out what the problem was. See the threads in the main forum.


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01-16-2019, 01:29 PM

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I think I figured out what the problem was. See the threads in the main forum.
I just read that there may have been a piece of chalk or something on the cloth that caused the CB to change course like that. Makes a lot more sense than the table being badly out of level in that corner.

Does this mean that we are now going to see not only the cleaning of the cue ball, but table sweeping and vacuuming between racks?!!

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01-16-2019, 04:10 PM

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I just read that there may have been a piece of chalk or something on the cloth that caused the CB to change course like that. Makes a lot more sense than the table being badly out of level in that corner.

Does this mean that we are now going to see not only the cleaning of the cue ball, but table sweeping and vacuuming between racks?!!
I've watched the video a few times, normally when the cue hits chalk or some other debris it will quickly change course, his cue did not do that, it was a gradual change in direction. I think the table is just off. Whenever that happens to me I'll slow roll the ball in the general area to see which way it rolls, sure wish they would've done that so we could all see if the table is/was off.
  
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01-16-2019, 08:31 PM

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I've watched the video a few times, normally when the cue hits chalk or some other debris it will quickly change course, his cue did not do that, it was a gradual change in direction. I think the table is just off. Whenever that happens to me I'll slow roll the ball in the general area to see which way it rolls, sure wish they would've done that so we could all see if the table is/was off.
As mentioned in the other thread, I'm pretty sure the cue ball was spinning on one of its measles. Look at the spin very carefully after it passes the head string. I think that measle was up or down a little.


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I've watched the video a few times, normally when the cue hits chalk or some other debris it will quickly change course, his cue did not do that, it was a gradual change in direction. I think the table is just off. Whenever that happens to me I'll slow roll the ball in the general area to see which way it rolls, sure wish they would've done that so we could all see if the table is/was off.
Maybe I'm just too picky about the equipment I play on and with, but I can't possibly imagine that with the days and hours and effort John spent going after this record, as well as the trouble of video taping every attempt, that he would not be doing it on a table that had been recently checked and made perfectly level as possible, and that he wouldn't have been using virtually new balls, particularly the cue ball.
  
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Maybe I'm just too picky about the equipment I play on and with, but I can't possibly imagine that with the days and hours and effort John spent going after this record, as well as the trouble of video taping every attempt, that he would not be doing it on a table that had been recently checked and made perfectly level as possible, and that he wouldn't have been using virtually new balls, particularly the cue ball.
I agree with this, and I also think it unlikely that a measle was high or low and the highness or lowness somehow exaggerated the curving path of the cue ball. I would look to Dr. Dave to tell us which of these measle positions, if either, would have that effect (without having caused any other adverse effect during a two hour run of over 400 balls). Id be inclined to place weight on what John reported. He was there. He reacted immediately in a way that tells us that the path of the CB was not normal. The player knows.
  
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01-17-2019, 09:17 AM

I didn't see the other thread until after my comment. Either way, it was too gradual of a change in direction to have hit something. I'll have to read up on the measle ball, never heard of it causing issues.

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01-17-2019, 10:48 AM

Here's the footage of the scratch in Slow Motion so you can really feel the pain !!!

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I agree with this, and I also think it unlikely that a measle was high or low and the highness or lowness somehow exaggerated the curving path of the cue ball. I would look to Dr. Dave to tell us which of these measle positions, if either, would have that effect (without having caused any other adverse effect during a two hour run of over 400 balls). I’d be inclined to place weight on what John reported. He was there. He reacted immediately in a way that tells us that the path of the CB was not normal. The player knows.
It appeared the curve was very gradual all the way until the final 6-12 inches when it turned even more. When the cue ball initially started drawing back, it was headed more than 1 diamond from the corner pocket, when it passed by the side pockets, it was headed just inside the first diamond, when it passed the headstring it was headed at least 1/2 diamond from the corner pocket, then it took the fatal and most severe path/curve in the final 6"-12" - very strange. Normally a ball spinning like a top down the table at a slow speed will still head in a fairly straight line, which makes what happened here so unusual and unfortunate for John - Almost like the ghost of Willie put a spell on the cue ball to scratch!

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01-18-2019, 12:11 PM

Unbelievable great run, Congrats to John!..... I watched the end and I was shocked too how the cue ball curved.... There's no way it was the table... John would of known if it was off... In my opinion, that cue ball had a ton of spin on it coming off the rack and it took hold right at the end.... much like a pitcher's curve ball... Or.... It was Mosconi's ghost saying Enough is Enough!

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01-18-2019, 06:59 PM

I just finished watching the 434. Wow, what an amazing run. Kudo's to John Schmidt. The chitter chatter, fast shooting, and light heartedness, all made it even more enjoyable to watch. When the number got super high, you could tell there was way more tension in the room. Thanks for the great show, Mr Schmidt.
  
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01-22-2019, 10:23 AM

I sense that 527+ is coming soon. John's got the skill and the desire. Wish him luck.
  
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