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05-16-2019, 11:45 AM

Congratulations John !

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05-16-2019, 11:48 AM

iam asking for my own research about these highruns .
  
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05-16-2019, 11:52 AM

how did the 490 end?
  
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05-16-2019, 12:03 PM

caro double b in ingolstadt , on a fast cloth and tight pockets they told me .
cant believe it .
to me engert is the greatest talent after mike sigel ...
  
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05-16-2019, 12:04 PM

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caro double b in ingolstadt , on a fast cloth and tight pockets they told me .
cant believe it .
to me engert is the greatest talent after mike sigel ...
I've seen them both in person. In my limited experience, I would put them in the other order.


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05-16-2019, 12:10 PM

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how did the 490 end?
John said that he missed a tough break shot


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05-16-2019, 12:31 PM

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When he breaks the record, and I'm sure he will, it needs to be national news. It would be a big boost for pool and John. Is anyone of consequence with media ties working with him to publicize the record-breaking run when it happens? Barry Hearn? Joe Rogan? He should be booked on the Today Show, Good Morning America, the late-night shows, etc.
For pool players only, the apa crowd and the general public STILL have no clue as to what 14.1 Continuous Billiards, aka Straight Pool even are. Even it it's explained to them, they still think 8 ball is harder because you can't sink just any ball.
Sad, I know, but true all the same.


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05-16-2019, 01:47 PM

Thanks for the heads up. I knew about the run, but not where to find the videos. I just subscribed to his channel. I recommend you all do the same.


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05-16-2019, 02:25 PM

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caro double b in ingolstadt , on a fast cloth and tight pockets they told me .
cant believe it .
to me engert is the greatest talent after mike sigel ...
Wow, that's some great info. Agreed about Sigel's greatness, probably the best straight pooler since Mosconi, just a hair above Mizerak and Varner among the great American players.
  
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05-16-2019, 05:31 PM

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For pool players only, the apa crowd and the general public STILL have no clue as to what 14.1 Continuous Billiards, aka Straight Pool even are. Even it it's explained to them, they still think 8 ball is harder because you can't sink just any ball.
Sad, I know, but true all the same.
Regarding folks clueless or misinformed about Straight Pool (my lifelong favorite game) one way I've found *very* useful whenever a non-player onlooker, or a beginner who's genuinely curious about what's involved, is to always first ask them if they enjoyed the "Hustler" movie. Unfailingly they've seen it and immediately state what a great film it is and how skillfully the Newman and Gleason characters appeared to be playing -- rack-after-rack -- for hours . . . and when asked, they suddenly remember that periodically they heard "That's 125 . . . Game" loudly announced by the rack man.

Connecting them to the movie seems to subtly trigger their remembrance of at least three prime characteristics of the game that moviegoers were witnessing and enjoying -- (innocent of any real 14.1 knowledge): (a) the continuous nature of the racks; (b) the accumulation of points . . . one at a time; and (c) the sustained excellence required to reach that figurative 125 for a win each time.

By always bringing up the movie, I've -- in a friendly way-- brought many folks from the point of being totally "clueless" (or grossly misinformed) to being actually eager to learn much more about the Straight Pool game that was repeatedly referred to in the film they liked so much.

In my experience, even the notion and purpose of 14.1 "Safety" play when no realistic shot was available, was readily grasped by almost all non-players in the audience seeing the film then or now, with no on-screen explanation required.

Try the above correlative technique and you'll have the genuine pleasure of seeing piqued-curiosity, sudden remembrance/awareness, and more than a few light bulb moments. Pleasures that sustain anyone teaching any worthwhile endeavor.

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05-16-2019, 06:43 PM

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I could not even imagine getting to 500, and knowing only 27 more to go. That's some pressure.

I hope he does it. And I like Wilie as much as anyone else. But, lets get off the "comparing" tables, cues, balls, chalk, cloth, etc. A record is a record.

I'm pretty sure baseballs, bats, gloves, fence distance, etc were not all the same in the 1920s compared to now. But, nobody in baseball brings that up when records are broken, so neither should pool players.
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05-16-2019, 07:12 PM

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If they switched to an 8 footer at Derby City, 527 would fall in the very first year, and 1,000 would be quite possible. Even so, I'd call a 1,000 on an eight footer much less of an accomplishment than Cranfield's 420 on a 10-footer.

Switching to an 8-footer would be like lowering the basket on a basketball court. A lot more people could dunk!

John will get the exhibition record on a 9-footer. I'm very confident of it. Patience.
Probably so and if Willie decided to take a month to beat his own record he would have shattered that several times heck he walked out on a over 400 exhibition local here because the room owner wouldn't flip the bill for him to stay

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05-16-2019, 07:30 PM

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All of these three runs were misses or scratches on the break ball. With John’s Facebook video, he said he was both elated and ready to jump off the proverbial bridge. At 450, he started really tightening up.

Edit: the youtube video shows 421, which suggests he missed the ball after the break

Freddie <~~~ tightens at 28
I know what you mean as I have missed so ma my on 28 that I can't even s taart to count them. But the several misses on 42 have been the real heart breakers as I have only broke 50 a few times.
  
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Probably so and if Willie decided to take a month to beat his own record he would have shattered that several times heck he walked out on a over 400 exhibition local here because the room owner wouldn't flip the bill for him to stay

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Agreed on that. Willie wasn't terribly interested in setting an unapproachable high run record. He was, quite clearly, a better player than Babe Cranfield, who ran over 700 twice, with 768 his best. Had Mosconi been as obsessed with a high run as Cranfield or Schmidt, there's little doubt in my mind that the record would be well over 1,000.
  
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05-17-2019, 06:02 AM

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When he breaks the record, and I'm sure he will, it needs to be national news. It would be a big boost for pool and John. Is anyone of consequence with media ties working with him to publicize the record-breaking run when it happens? Barry Hearn? Joe Rogan? He should be booked on the Today Show, Good Morning America, the late-night shows, etc.
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