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06-17-2019, 11:46 AM

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And yet. Pelosi is putting the hammer down on impeachment.
Their internal polling is showing that there is no real appetite across the country for impeachment.

The impeach Trump rallies were a bust.

However people are getting in line 40 hours before Trumps next rally.


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Correct. It is not a coincidence. It is the random fact of which side was taken in the seating of the factions in the French National Assembly in the later 18th century.
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……..and don't forget the Latin adjective 'sinister" meaning 'on the left side or unlucky'
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06-17-2019, 12:27 PM

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And yet. Pelosi is putting the hammer down on impeachment.
Their internal polling is showing that there is no real appetite across the country for impeachment.

The impeach Trump rallies were a bust.

However people are getting in line 40 hours before Trumps next rally.
Her choice right now is whether to call the current investigations in the House committees an officially voted 'impeachment inquiry' or just do them the same way as if they were, but without calling them that. She is choosing the latter, for the political reasons you mention.

I'm a very poor cook, limited mostly to heating things up-- boiling water, using the microwave, or the oven. But even I have learned when the water reaches boiling is a mark to start the timing, and you put the food into an oven pre-heated to a certain temperature.

She's waiting for the pre-heating to reach some temperature, and not passively, but by working on applying the heating, also. As the polling has gone from the 20%s in favor of impeachment to the 30%s and 40%s, and now 50%, that temperature is rising, without much of anything going on so far (because the WH is refusing to allow any past or current officials to testify). Except Hope Hicks has already been turning over documents, and has scheduled to appear as a witness.

As of now, more than half of the House Judiciary committee members are on the record favoring impeachment, so they would also vote to begin an impeachment inquiry as the first step. Other Ds who may favor it are not on the record, in deference to the Speaker's guidance. So far, Justin Amish is the only R in the House on record supporting it, and Pelosi wants more before making the move.

The PDJT WH Counsel's legal position may get the impeachment inquiry voted in place sooner than later, because their position in court is that the Congress has no right at all to investigate the executive branch for criminal offenses, unless it is within an impeachment inquiry.


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06-17-2019, 12:33 PM

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Her choice right now is whether to call the current investigations in the House committees an officially voted 'impeachment inquiry' or just do them the same way as if they were, but without calling them that. She is choosing the latter, for the political reasons you mention.

I'm a very poor cook, limited mostly to heating things up-- boiling water, using the microwave, or the oven. But even I have learned when the water reaches boiling is a mark to start the timing, and you put the food into an oven pre-heated to a certain temperature.

She's waiting for the pre-heating to reach some temperature, and not passively, but by working on applying the heating, also. As the polling has gone from the 20%s in favor of impeachment to the 30%s and 40%s, and now 50%, that temperature is rising, without much of anything going on so far (because the WH is refusing to allow any past or current officials to testify). Except Hope Hicks has already been turning over documents, and has scheduled to appear as a witness.

As of now, more than half of the House Judiciary committee members are on the record favoring impeachment, so they would also vote to begin an impeachment inquiry as the first step. Other Ds who may favor it are not on the record, in deference to the Speaker's guidance. So far, Justin Amish is the only R in the House on record supporting it, and Pelosi wants more before making the move.

The PDJT WH Counsel's legal position may get the impeachment inquiry voted in place sooner than later, because their position in court is that the Congress has no right at all to investigate the executive branch for criminal offenses, unless it is within an impeachment inquiry.
Let them impeach.
They will go on record as failing in an election cycle.
It is a road to nowhere. Except perhaps early retirement.


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Let them impeach.
They will go on record as failing in an election cycle.
It is a road to nowhere. Except perhaps early retirement.
They are devoid of ideas on how to get Trump effectively out of office.
What else do they have? Do they know how to do real work?


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06-17-2019, 12:47 PM

The impeach Trump issue seems secondary.

It seems like the FBI, CIA and Secret Service just let Trump officials meet whoever they want. One Chinese agent got into the same building as Trump.

What concerns me more than impeachment is the weak security protecting the White House. I don't expect them to screen every person at a Trump event.

But for events where reservations are required I'd expect there to be some intelligence gathering on the attendees.

The point being if protection does their job, their shouldn't be any potential threats or foreign agents. Any meeting with Trump or Trump officials should be scrutinized as much as divorce terms. It doesn't matter if China donated a fortune to help get Hillary elected,

What upsets me about Democrats is they think obstructing justice is more important to press, than securing the White House. Of course Dem what the White House to be fast and loose, this way had Hilary won, they could being the sanctioned corruption of taxpayer dollars.
  
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06-18-2019, 04:26 AM

Why Trump might not lose.

100,000 ticket requests

Pretty good polling results in every state he goes to.

Perhaps Sofla would like to point out any previous president that has consistently had rallies and overflow at said rallies as Trump?

Or perhaps which democrat is filling stadiums like Trump.

President Trump supporters line up 40 hours before Orlando rally
Trump to announce re-election bid at Amway Center

By Daniel Dahm - Digital Manager

ORLANDO, Fla. - More than 40 hours before President Donald Trump will announce his re-election bid in Orlando, supporters started lining up outside the Amway Center.

Eight Trump supporters started camping out Monday morning, with the first one showing up at 2:30 a.m. The rally is scheduled to begin at 8 p.m. Tuesday.

Gary Beck, a Trump supporter from Panama City, was the first in line.

"There's going to be a bunch of people, and it's going to be pretty intense," Beck said. "The electricity is going to be high. It's time for America to get back on its feet and be made better than it's ever been before."

Trump tweeted Monday that the rally "looks to be setting records," with more than 100,000 ticket requests. The Amway Center seats 20,000.

"We are building large movie screens outside to take care of everybody," Trump tweeted.

The visit marks Trump's first campaign event in Orlando since he ended his 2016 presidential campaign with a "Thank You Tour" stop at the Central Florida Fairgrounds.

Trump's last visit to the Orlando area was in October 2018 when he spoke at the International Association of Chiefs of Police at the Orange County Convention Center.

Trump supporters have already started lining up to secure their spot inside the Amway Center. @realDonaldTrump will be announcing his re-election campaign in Orlando Tuesday night at 8 p.m. https://t.co/Mj7WQ2VoWI pic.twitter.com/wyyMyzYHPm — Mark Lehman (@MarkLehman6) June 17, 2019
Big Rally tomorrow night in Orlando, Florida, looks to be setting records. We are building large movie screens outside to take care of everybody. Over 100,000 requests. Our Country is doing great, far beyond what the haters & losers thought possible - and it will only get better! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 17, 2019
Fierce fight

Trump's early strength in Florida on the night of the 2016 election was the first sign he was about to score an upset victory. In an otherwise bleak 2018 for Republicans, the state was again a bright spot.

But as another campaign heats up, Democrats aren't ceding the Sunshine State.

Democratic candidates have already visited to tap donors and connect with voters and will descend on Miami later this month for their first debates.

And Trump will return on Tuesday for his latest re-election announcement at a rally in Orlando.

The attention is recognition that, despite its expensive media markets and hyper-polarized politics, neither party can ignore Florida.

For Trump, there are few ways for him to remain in the White House without keeping Florida's 29 electoral votes.

What to know about Trump's visit

Ticket requests for the event have quadrupled the capability of the Amway Center, which holds 20,000 people. The president said in a tweet last week the event will be “the hottest of them all,” with 74,000 ticket requests already made for the event. He upped that number to 100,000 in a tweet Monday morning.


This will be Trump's first campaign event in Orlando since he ended his 2016 presidential campaign with a "Thank You Tour" stop at the Central Florida Fairgrounds.

Here's everything you need to know ahead of the rally.

A ticket does not guarantee entry

Anyone interested in attending the rally can click here to register for tickets, however, a ticket does not guarantee entry to the event, according to Trump 2020 campaign National Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany.

“Orlando rally entry is on a first-come, first-serve basis, so a ticket doesn’t necessarily guarantee entry," McEnany said in a statement to News 6 partner Florida Today.

Campaign security and U.S. Secret Service will close the entrance once the building reaches capacity, according to Amway Center.

Viewing outside Amway Center

"There will be screens outside the venue to watch the rally once capacity is reached,” McEnany said in her statement, which also noted that a "Trump tailgater" would be held outside starting at 10 a.m.

What not to bring

Leave your laser pointers and air horns at home. There is a list of items attendees are asked not to bring into the venue. Click here for the full list.

Timeline

Doors to the Amway Center open at 4 p.m. and the event starts at 8 p.m.

Parking

Parking around the Amway Center will be extremely limited due to security for the event. Attendees are encouraged to car pool, rideshare and take advantage of public transportation. Find more on that later on in the story.

The GEICO parking garage may not be available due to the needs of the president's campaign and U.S. Secret Service.


Parking in city-owned garages will only be available for purchase on site on the day of the event on a first-come, first-served basis, according to the Amway Center.

View a map of the parking options here.

Sunrail

SunRail will operate its normal service schedule until 10 p.m. Tuesday. After 10 p.m., SunRail will operate three northbound and three southbound trains departing from the Church Street Station.

Here is the extended nighttime schedule for June 18:

Northbound Church Street Station Platform (north of South Street):

10:15 p.m.
10:30 p.m.
10:45 p.m.

Station stops at LYNX Central, AdventHealth, Winter Park, Maitland, Altamonte Springs, Longwood, Lake Mary, Sanford, DeBary

Southbound Church Street Station Platform (south of South Street):

10 p.m.
10:15 p.m.
10:45 p.m.
Station stops at Orlando Health/Amtrak, Sand Lake Road, Meadow Woods, Tupperware, Kissimmee/Amtrak, Poinciana

Traffic

Roads around Amway Center in downtown Orlando will be impacted by Trump's visit. The following roads immediately around the event center will be closed:

Central Boulevard
Anderson Street
South Street
Garland Avenue
Division Avenue
Church Street

View the road closure map here.

The U.S. Secret Service may close additional roads, including parts of I-4, if necessary.


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06-18-2019, 04:49 AM

Nancy knows that the impeachment thing is a farce that will never happen. She can't admit it publicly, of course. I'm sure she continues to be shocked at the seemingly endless stupidity of her base. This allows her, and the other tards, to continue with the same weak strategy they have employed during DTs first term. Will they be able to get away with it during the 2nd term? I wouldn't bet against it. Remember, you can't fix stupid.
  
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Will the Dims send their Storm Troopers to mess up Trump's Rally?


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Why Trump might not lose.

100,000 ticket requests

Pretty good polling results in every state he goes to.

Perhaps Sofla would like to point out any previous president that has consistently had rallies and overflow at said rallies as Trump?

Or perhaps which democrat is filling stadiums like Trump.
Arenas are not stadiums. SFAIK, he has not filled any stadium, ever, and so does not book rallies in them. For today, the Amway Center is an arena, where the Orlando Magic play.

No doubt he is the rally king of presidents like no other. No other PEOTUS held 'victory lap' rallies in their transition. No other POTUS filed for re-election on his Inauguration Day (or any earlier than late in the 3rd year, probably more likely before the fourth year). No other POTUS held over 60 rallies in 2-1/2 years in office. And no other POTUS ever lied about the attendance claiming 2x and 3x times or more of the total facility seating capacity were in the building. Or lied that the fire marshalls were breaking the law about maximum capacity to do him a solid.

There is no showing that he has expanded the vote that 'won' WI, PA, and MI by about 0.5% squeakers in each of those decisive three states, and ample evidence that he is down double digits in job approval in them. Show me anything that says he isn't. Not just claims that they exist, but the evidence of what was asked and what the report says.

Since he has the trained apes (in someone's impolite phrase that I would never use myself! ) trained to hit the road for these literally dozens of rallies, they are still going to (typically, multiple ones of) these. But someone who attends six rallies is still only one vote. These are not unique and separate attending audiences, but include a lot of the same people.

Without any elaborate and lengthy 'training' period, Kamala Harris drew more than this 20,000 number to her announcement event. Even PDJT himself said he was impressed by it.


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06-18-2019, 02:09 PM

he may lose because he didn't stick to his guns on draining the swamp / america first. all the good guys got fired and in came bolton, pompeo, and that old neocon crew. the deep state machinery got to him through the russiagate bullshit, or maybe though other holds
  
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Without any elaborate and lengthy 'training' period, Kamala Harris drew more than this 20,000 number to her announcement event. Even PDJT himself said he was impressed by it.
Wrong, Trump never said he was impressed by anything related to Harris. He mentioned, one time, that there was some enthusiasm to one of her crowds, unlike the others, who seemed just flat. Basically, he took a shot at the rest of the field and did so by saying her crowd was not flat. WOW.

Of course, you can read the article instead of quoting the fake title of the article.

Trump impressed by ‘Kameela’ Harris as 2020 challenger

But, journalism being what it is, they had to add and change it to fit their narrative. You ate it up, so it does work.


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Arenas are not stadiums. SFAIK, he has not filled any stadium, ever, and so does not book rallies in them. For today, the Amway Center is an arena, where the Orlando Magic play.

No doubt he is the rally king of presidents like no other. No other PEOTUS held 'victory lap' rallies in their transition. No other POTUS filed for re-election on his Inauguration Day (or any earlier than late in the 3rd year, probably more likely before the fourth year). No other POTUS held over 60 rallies in 2-1/2 years in office. And no other POTUS ever lied about the attendance claiming 2x and 3x times or more of the total facility seating capacity were in the building. Or lied that the fire marshalls were breaking the law about maximum capacity to do him a solid.

There is no showing that he has expanded the vote that 'won' WI, PA, and MI by about 0.5% squeakers in each of those decisive three states, and ample evidence that he is down double digits in job approval in them. Show me anything that says he isn't. Not just claims that they exist, but the evidence of what was asked and what the report says.

Since he has the trained apes (in someone's impolite phrase that I would never use myself! ) trained to hit the road for these literally dozens of rallies, they are still going to (typically, multiple ones of) these. But someone who attends six rallies is still only one vote. These are not unique and separate attending audiences, but include a lot of the same people.

Without any elaborate and lengthy 'training' period, Kamala Harris drew more than this 20,000 number to her announcement event. Even PDJT himself said he was impressed by it.
I should have said venue. Not stadium.

Wow. 1 Event for Kamala.
She has a better chance of being banged in the senate cafeterias walk in cooler than becoming president.

You just keep grasping at straws my boy.

By the way. Tell me again how sure you were that Hillary was going to be president again.


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I should have said venue. Not stadium.

Wow. 1 Event for Kamala.
She has a better chance of being banged in the senate cafeterias walk in cooler than becoming president.

You just keep grasping at straws my boy.

By the way. Tell me again how sure you were that Hillary was going to be president again.
As I have mentioned here now many times, what I said here as early as August of 2016 was that Trump had a good chance of winning, if he could avoid self-made problems.

I went back, found and re-posted my post to that effect. I was hoping she would win, but I was not at all sure.

Very early on, I was confident he would not be the nominee. But before he clinched the nomination I could see he would, because math: his lead vs. what was left on the table.

I'm certain you read my original proof of my re-post, and you must have seen my many reminders that I proved up what I said. So please drop this unfounded claim I was sure she would win as some talking point. It does not apply to me. It is untrue. You know it is untrue. Thank you.


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... the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either -- but right through every human heart -- and through all human hearts.

― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn

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