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03-18-2019, 10:12 AM

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The boy should have received an immediate straight right instead of a slap.
I would have given him a version Mickey Ward's left hook to the liver/kidney area. The pain from that shot tends to linger just a bit.


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03-18-2019, 10:15 AM

First of all, he is not a child. He is a 17 year old punk teenager who premeditatedly assulted an 69 elderly man. This little azzwhipe got only a small dose of what he deserved. He is getting his 15 minutes of fame like he wanted though. Maybe he can put those egg cracking skills to work at iHop.


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03-18-2019, 10:30 AM

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Not at all. I am very non-PC, in the extreme, so I am not sure why you say that.


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03-18-2019, 10:32 AM

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That is Bull Shit.

At 17, the kid assaulted someone. Not a child any longer in the eyes of the law for assault...why are you talking about "child abuse"?
Charging him as an adult is a function of formal prosecution.

He is still a child and can be charged as a child as well.

You make that decision when you decide to hit him?

My that's awful convenient.

He is a child. That's a fact. What's the old guy's excuse? Any option to charge him as a child?

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03-18-2019, 10:35 AM

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Once the "child" decided to assault the man from behind, he waived any protection from getting smacked.

What happened to that child is not abuse,
LOL! Did I say anything different?

Pay attention. There was a follow up.

The old guy further physically retaliated after he slapped him.

No excuse for that. I wouldn't have any problem with someone breaking his arm on the spot to stop him from doing that.

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03-18-2019, 10:37 AM

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Yuup. That's how they learn. Now, he thinks, crap, maybe not so smart to do this again. Still not sure how they released the kid without charges ???
So you feel OK with cops beating up kids in the same spirit?

How many bones should be broken?

Cops have no rights beyond the rest of us so it is a reasonable question posed to a former cop.

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03-18-2019, 10:38 AM

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First of all, he is not a child. He is a 17 year old
That's a child.

You cannot construe it otherwise...unless...are you an abuser seeking justification for your deeds? It has to be asked.


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03-18-2019, 10:43 AM

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"Law of the street." Law of the jungle." Seems natural when talking about the very low grade thinking that produces children "weaponized by the Left".

Everybody has the right to self defense. A kid comes at you with a gun, sure defend yourself.

Beat down a kid for hitting you with an egg? I would be happy to have your arms broken for you.


A kid with a cell phone and an egg? And people are saying to beat him? They are suggesting is father should? How badly? How many of his juvenile bones would you prefer to be broken? How much blood loss should he have? How many scars should be left on him? Or do you just want to scare him? You want to scare a child? Really?

I would never want to compromise someone's right or ability to "fight back" as you put it...defend themselves. But there is certainly a difference between retaliation and defense.

A teenager instigates a physical altercation? You mean attacks you? Obviously defend yourself. Get away if possible. Restrain the kid if necessary. Grab them by the ear? Maybe so. Audacity of these brats these days? I dunno. Seems to me there is nothing new about it except we have things like Youtube and/or streaming uploaded video from phones.

The media has been full of it since the advent of silent films. Famous actors like Mickey Rooney played delinquents as a genre. Many delinquents have been elevated to legend status. Billy the Kid was orphaned at 14, first arrested at 16, and shot dead at the age of 21.

May of the famous antagonists in legend and history were juveniles, even many of the protagonists were juvenile delinquents...including in our traditional children's stories and even nursery rhymes.

Thought it may feel different, I do not believe it is anything new. That it is typical for leftists to employ such things as a strategy, I don't think it's anything new.
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thank you... I do think they are more inclined to be antagonistic towards adults than in the past, especially white adults

so how does one tell the difference between a 17 year old and a 19 year old?
  
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03-18-2019, 10:52 AM

Don't know, still seeing red about the comment that my father would be servicing his cellmate as any child abuser would.

My father was actually in Juvenal Detention in the 30's he was a hell raiser who never graduated from high school. He was tough on us for a reason, to make us better than him.

Here is an example. My brother in high school was out drinking with his buddies and got caught by the cops. They call the house to tell him that he can pick up his son now at the station house. He tells them to lock him up for the evening and he will be there sometime tomorrow.

Do you think that attitude would be common today?

For sure not in that 17 year old's family.



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LOL! Did I say anything different?

Pay attention. There was a follow up.

The old guy further physically retaliated after he slapped him.

No excuse for that. I wouldn't have any problem with someone breaking his arm on the spot to stop him from doing that.

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03-18-2019, 10:53 AM

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That's a child.

You cannot construe it otherwise...unless...are you an abuser seeking justification for your deeds? It has to be asked.
A child is prepubesent. Now you are accusing me (as the left always does) of being an abuser. That sir is called slander.


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03-18-2019, 11:52 AM

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Charging him as an adult is a function of formal prosecution.

He is still a child and can be charged as a child as well.

You make that decision when you decide to hit him?

My that's awful convenient.

He is a child. That's a fact. What's the old guy's excuse? Any option to charge him as a child?

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At what point is he no longer a child?

If he had been an obvious 10-year old and pulled this stunt, I would want the old man to be charged for child abuse and fully agree with you. The sign "I'm only 17" hanging around the egg chucking youth isn't visible on the video I saw. You are judging the old guy after the incidence with facts not available at the time of the assault.
  
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03-18-2019, 12:06 PM

There are also laws that deal with the assault of adults over sixty or sixty five years old, depending on the place of occurrence (he is 69), that constitute a third degree felony, and are classified as aggravated battery. This is based on common sense that the elderly are more brittle and subject to longer healing times than younger people.

This situation involved a little pussy slapping a bigger guy with an egg, but it could have also knocked the bigger man down (especially when taken by surprise) and caused broken bones or more serious damage, should the older man have fallen and struck his head.

If I'm the old guy that gets hit and can still stand, someone is definitely getting hit back. Bet your life on it...

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03-18-2019, 12:13 PM

Old guy got egged from behind. Turns around and slaps offender. Pretty normal reaction. Old guy should apologize. Offender should be escorted out. Find his parent or guardian and turn him over pending investigation. Charge the offender. Minor crime. Stupid thing to do.

Old guy and/or others further retaliate against the kid? Arrest them.

You have the right to defend yourself, not to retaliate.

Simple.

What blows my mind is people thinking the kid has whatever coming to him. What if the guy turned around and shot him? What if when the kid got slapped he fell over and hit his head and got brain damage?

Some seem so much wrapped up in the bravado about the kid getting what is coming to him. Just look around you in your own neighborhood and in your own families. Hey, kid egged someone from behind, kid got slapped, gets in trouble. Old guy further retaliates? I am pretty confident that the real life consequences are not good for the old guy. And I am fully confident that some of the same people acting with bravado now would be some of the same people that would jump to defend that kid and from that guy further going after the kid. In fact I am very confident of that.


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03-18-2019, 12:18 PM

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So you feel OK with cops beating up kids in the same spirit?

How many bones should be broken?

Cops have no rights beyond the rest of us so it is a reasonable question posed to a former cop.

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Yep, if they crack an egg on my head, they are going to take 2 punches. I would not have delayed the second one, that was the old guys' mistake. I don't make such mistakes. No bones broken, and no serious injuries, just enough to let him now actions have consequences. I've never thrown just one punch in any fight or skirmish, ever. Just not a very good move to make in a fight, throw one punch and wait for reaction. It's usually more than 2, but usually the first two lets me know where I stand immediately.

Don't see a problem with that in the least. You think one punch is ok, I think it's two. They are both reasonable, and neither is unreasonable.


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Lest we all not forget, who started this series of premeditated events?


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