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06-17-2019, 05:45 AM

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Even then, Trump would be elected.

But if the tweets still come, I would be suspicious.


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06-17-2019, 06:15 AM

Based on the Mueller report.

It is likely the CIA and FBI may try to frame him.

The more common entrapment is when law enforcement pose to be "bad people" like "assassins, prostitutes or terrorist recruiters"

It seems like they will pose as agents with information about a political opponent and see if Trump or Trump associates follow the proper course of reporting it.

Alternatively they may try a too late to back out problem.
Trump's team takes info and acts on it, it could be war in Iran, tariffs against China or something more laid back like uncovering foreign agents in America.
While waiting for the intended Trump action, a planned backlash would ensue and be very public. At the level of under-aged illegal border crossing people dying while in ICE facilities. Whoever sent those children across knew they may die upon arrival.
  
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06-17-2019, 06:42 AM

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A fine joke here. Because the 'we' you must be referring to is the Obama administration itself. I'm sure you realized it, and are just trolling some simpletons or something. Good job! (But they'll never realize it, sad to say.)

It's widely known that the PBO terms saw more deportations than any other in history, over 2.5 million, as many as 400,000 in some years, gaining him the scornful title of 'Deporter-in-Chief' from immigration advocacy groups.
and yet, nobody called him a racist. Nobody said he was breaking up families, nobody accused him of genocide. That's why we laugh at your left wing loons.


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06-17-2019, 06:55 AM

Perception is everything.

Sofla can argue till the sun goes down about where exactly the economy stands.

The democrats on the east and west coast would not vote for him if their disposable incomes quadrupled. They are not even a factor.

If the economy is still perceived to be good by the right and independents by September of 2020.
And Trump keeps singing the America First mantra.
And the democrats fail to find anything post Mueller.

His chances are very good to be reelected.

His prospects also increase if he experiences wins with Mexico and China.

The illegal immigration problem is becoming a noticeable for the left.
If one pathogen gets out of control between now and then. The democrats will be done.
If one illegal from Africa managed to bring Ebola to Mexico. It will be over.
It will be a political weapon the left will have no defense against.
Especially if even a single American citizen contracts the disease.

Plagues and their potential to spread is one thing the typically strikes terror into the hearts of most individuals.

It is the one path that will assure an anti immigration stance across the nation.


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06-17-2019, 07:33 AM

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Even then, Trump would be elected.

Sen. Hatch said in an interview that most of the American People have no idea of just how close we came to being "turned" into a Socialistic Communist State. He said it "after", so he was not using it as a scare tactic or the like.

Every Democrat Voter should look at Venezuela & research its History.
  
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06-17-2019, 08:31 AM

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Perception is everything.

Sofla can argue till the sun goes down about where exactly the economy stands.

The democrats on the east and west coast would not vote for him if their disposable incomes quadrupled. They are not even a factor.

If the economy is still perceived to be good by the right and independents by September of 2020.
And Trump keeps singing the America First mantra.
And the democrats fail to find anything post Mueller.

His chances are very good to be reelected.

His prospects also increase if he experiences wins with Mexico and China.

The illegal immigration problem is becoming a noticeable for the left.
If one pathogen gets out of control between now and then. The democrats will be done.
If one illegal from Africa managed to bring Ebola to Mexico. It will be over.
It will be a political weapon the left will have no defense against.
Especially if even a single American citizen contracts the disease.

Plagues and their potential to spread is one thing the typically strikes terror into the hearts of most individuals.

It is the one path that will assure an anti immigration stance across the nation.
Modern Germ Warfare?


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06-17-2019, 08:35 AM

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Sen. Hatch said in an interview that most of the American People have no idea of just how close we came to being "turned" into a Socialistic Communist State. He said it "after", so he was not using it as a scare tactic or the like.

Every Democrat Voter should look at Venezuela & research its History.
Hatch is right and the Dims are fighting back to destroy (most here) us.


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06-17-2019, 08:50 AM

Without Obamacare would people without health insurance be able to access vital healthcare services?

Without Public School would families be able to afford to pay for private school?

Public Assistance and Government Programs are a solution to problems in the community.

Do they solve all problems? That is where Democratic Leadership begins.

What pockets of the community can the next President help?

Healthcare and school are great for people in areas with opportunities.

But there are large areas of America with more need for a job because they have a family. Americans can put off their education and health in exchange for raising children.

Trump could be lose his edge because locked into their geographic location and unable to relocate for work pose a huge problem. That is where Democratic solutions sound so pleasant. People can keep the life they have but with added benefits.
  
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06-17-2019, 09:22 AM

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Fun fact #1: He's never been as high as even 50% in any other poll, ever.
Wow, you have read all the polls published everywhere? You must be very busy chasing that corrupt, obsolete, and invalidated field. I guess numbers are just a magnet for some eyes.


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06-17-2019, 09:29 AM

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Without Obamacare would people without health insurance be able to access vital healthcare services?

Without Public School would families be able to afford to pay for private school?

Public Assistance and Government Programs are a solution to problems in the community.

Do they solve all problems? That is where Democratic Leadership begins.

What pockets of the community can the next President help?

Healthcare and school are great for people in areas with opportunities.

But there are large areas of America with more need for a job because they have a family. Americans can put off their education and health in exchange for raising children.

Trump could be lose his edge because locked into their geographic location and unable to relocate for work pose a huge problem. That is where Democratic solutions sound so pleasant. People can keep the life they have but with added benefits.
Look at the Cities that have long been under Democrat... rule... or would you rather the word guidance.

Do you know what deception is. Look back into history at the 'Governments' of The LEFT.

In the Bible the word Left represents "A Wrong Way" or something Evil or Wrong. It is NOT a coincidence that The Democrat Party is of what is called The Left.
  
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06-17-2019, 10:20 AM

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Modern Germ Warfare?
Not at all.
Just individuals making their way to the USA as carriers.
Currently the wet shirts on their backs crowd are spreading diseases all across the nation.

The conventional wisdom is to blame the antivax people.

They are not the source of diseases being reintroduced back into the USA.


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06-17-2019, 11:05 AM

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Wow, you have read all the polls published everywhere? You must be very busy chasing that corrupt, obsolete, and invalidated field. I guess numbers are just a magnet for some eyes.
No, I have not done that. I see Rasmussen almost every day, and the same with the Fivethirtyeight average of the approval polls (but they weight it in their proprietary way), and the realclearpolitics average less frequently.

I make the statement because I have read that assertion many times from those who have done that, and I credit their statements as accurate. YMMV.

No one needs to survey all of them over all of this time to disprove it, when a single instance found will discredit the claim. Got anything like that? An open invitation for all to blow that claim out of the water. Just ONE cite from any national pollster (other than Rasmussen) is all it takes. I'm a patient person, and I can wait for anyone to show me it's a false statement for as long as it takes.

On the theory that they are all crap anyway, it hardly matters if it is true. But SFAIK, it is true, in fact. It seems weird to object if you have the trump card that they don't matter whatsoever and are inherently flawed and inaccurate. Why not just go with that, first and last, and only?


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06-17-2019, 11:09 AM

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Look at the Cities that have long been under Democrat... rule... or would you rather the word guidance.

Do you know what deception is. Look back into history at the 'Governments' of The LEFT.

In the Bible the word Left represents "A Wrong Way" or something Evil or Wrong. It is NOT a coincidence that The Democrat Party is of what is called The Left.
Correct. It is not a coincidence. It is the random fact of which side was taken in the seating of the factions in the French National Assembly in the later 18th century.

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Correct. It is not a coincidence. It is the random fact of which side was taken in the seating of the factions in the French National Assembly in the later 18th century.
……..and don't forget the Latin adjective 'sinister" meaning 'on the left side or unlucky'


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06-17-2019, 11:38 AM

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Perception is everything.
Then perceive this current information about perceptions.

The economy is considered good by 70% of the people (again by the hated polling that some discount, but which others who say they discount them cite anyway). It's as good as it will get, imo, and can not improve.

Nothing more has been developed beyond the Mueller report.

And yet currently, under these circumstances, from the Fox News poll taken June 9-12 (+/- 3%), with this history of it detailed:

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The result has steadily increased each time the poll has been conducted, and one year ago this month the number of respondents who favored impeaching and removing from office was 39%, with 51% opposed. That shows that the number has not only increased in favor, but the position in the majority has switched.




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