Is this forum only about CTE?
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Apparently this section of AZ billiards (the Aiming Forum) was created specifically for CTE because it stirred up too much controversy in the main forum. No other aiming system or aiming method prompts as many questionable or unreasonable things.
There have been many aiming threads that have nothing to do with CTE until a diehard cte user comes in and posts something like, "This is rediculous! All you need to know is 15, 30, and 45, and then pivot." Then the thread gets hijacked and becomes just another argument between those of us who question the existence of mysterious "phenomena" concerning CTE and those who staunchly defend it at all cost. Reasonable discussion disappears.
Pick any aiming system or method (except CTE) and the conversation tends to be more civil and more productive.
There have been many aiming threads that have nothing to do with CTE until a diehard cte user comes in and posts something like, "This is rediculous! All you need to know is 15, 30, and 45, and then pivot." Then the thread gets hijacked and becomes just another argument between those of us who question the existence of mysterious "phenomena" concerning CTE and those who staunchly defend it at all cost. Reasonable discussion disappears.
Pick any aiming system or method (except CTE) and the conversation tends to be more civil and more productive.
Until the CTE cultists show up - but it seems they've all been banned or warned off, so maybe there's a chance for real discussion now.
This place was only created as a firewall to keep the CTE nonsense out of the main forum - banishing discussion of aiming in general was just necessary collateral damage. Aiming (without CTE's flammability) is really too small a topic for its own forum.
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Bullshit.......Being called a troll just because someone, me, has a different opinion or view point is neither civil nor productive.
The real troublemakers are still here.......
Brian was correct. This forum was created to keep the noise about Hal Houle out of the main forum.
If you say something like "aiming doesn't exit, only aligning (or whatever word you used) exists and I don't care what anybody has to say about it, it's my world" then you reap what you sow. If you present a strong opinion and someone else voices an opposite strong opinion that does not make them a troublemaker any more than it makes you a troll, although even you admitted you were trolling people with the "cue balls don't have edges" stuff.
You're not a troll and they're not troublemakers, m'kay?
This forum was created because it was impossible to have a civil discussion on any aspect of aiming without one particular faction causing a riot.
Next thing you knew the gendarmes had the rubber bullets, water cannons, and tear gas out. Everyone was corralled into this holding pen with watch-towers and barbed wire all around. Still, there would be assaults and fights in the exercise yard. You never knew when someone was going to come at you with a shive or bar of soap wrapped in a blanket.
Now one particular gang has been bused to a unknown facility and peace has returned to this particular correctional facility.
Lou Figueroa
Next thing you knew the gendarmes had the rubber bullets, water cannons, and tear gas out. Everyone was corralled into this holding pen with watch-towers and barbed wire all around. Still, there would be assaults and fights in the exercise yard. You never knew when someone was going to come at you with a shive or bar of soap wrapped in a blanket.
Now one particular gang has been bused to a unknown facility and peace has returned to this particular correctional facility.
Lou Figueroa
I've noticed that they have been spotted in the last day or two in nearby neighborhoods so maybe you're right. On the other hand, cult leaders are generally very charismatic and usually gain 100% compliance among followers. We just don't know what orders, if any, have been given.
It would be too bad because the aiming forum has a chance to be a more normal place.
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There will be blood in the streets, but a new resolve will be born. The only way to crush maniacal zealots is with the most trusted offensive weapons system in our arsenal...THE IGNORE BUTTON. Nothing short of annihilation. Be prepared to MASH THE BUTTON! Anything less would be cowardice in the face of the enemy. Stout heart, Men, glory awaits.
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There will be blood in the streets, but a new resolve will be born. The only way to crush maniacal zealots is with the most trusted offensive weapons system in our arsenal...THE IGNORE BUTTON. Nothing short of annihilation. Be prepared to MASH THE BUTTON! Anything less would be cowardice in the face of the enemy. Stout heart, Men, glory awaits.
Boxcar
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Lol....Low500 has branched out! He is now bombarding my YouTube channel, spreading lies and falsehoods, anything to discredit non CTE aiming. It's really sad.
FYI.....I will be leaving for Vegas again this Friday, July 19th. Going to be there all next week. If anyone here will be there then It would be nice to meet up, maybe hit some balls at Griffs or wherever. Pete (low500), if you're going to be close you should definitely come and meet me. Bring your cue and some cash. We'll record our own "Truth Series" so everyone will know who is real and who is fake.
I saw one of his comments. I wouldn't allow obvious trolling comments to stand. I'd delete it.
I want it there. It shows his true character and lack of knowledge. Just about ayyone in the world that has purchased Poolology knows he is wrong, and I believe most people are smart enough to recognize trolling and false accusations when it comes to obvious things anyone on YouTube has access to. I don't like censorship, so if he wants to make an ass out of himself I'll let him.
Well that's another way to handle it. If you think his comments are helpful then leave them up.
I think his comments are helpful as far as providing an obvious example of someone leaving negative comments based on absolutely nothing. He has no knowledge of the person (me) or the aiming method (Poolology) he is downing. It's the old political strategy..... when you can't beat your opponent with facts and logic, do all you can to discredit them, to make them look bad. Granted there are some that fall for this ploy, but the vast majority recognize true BS when they see it. If not, it's their loss for being so gullible.
I havent posted in a while. I have used a few different aiming systems and realize each has to find what will work for themselves. That said i find it most amusing that some would dare question that cte really works. With so many run out videos now available and some great instructors using and teaching cte, resistance is futal. While i admit im not 100 percent proficient with cte, and sometimes revert back to other systems, it seems odd that many wil never admit they were wrong about thier complete fierce denial of cte. So its real simple....cte isnt the only aiming system but it can be very effective. But anyone who comes accross as a know it all is very annoying even if they are right. I like the attitude of less arguing and putting your money where your mouth is.
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I agree with a lot of this. But why is that some diehard cte players feel the need to attack others on a personal level, or step way outside the boundaries of normal behavior. Examples....
Spidey actually went through the trouble or time to find where I live. He pm'd me a picture of a Brian Crist from WV, a CEO of some company, and the guy was even a singer/guitar player in band. I told him it wasn't me, then a while later he sent a google earth screenshot of my house, so I guess he found the real me.
Low500 (aka "Pete Lowenstein") posted that he's seen me play guitar and that I was no good. Funny thing, my band hasn't played out (besides a couple of private parties) in nearly 2 years. There is no way he's seen me playing guitar, so I suspect he googled, as Spidey/Dave did, and found this other Brian Crist CEO guy, who apparently isn't much of a guitar player. Lol.
Now, recently, Low500/Pete has joined YouTube for the sole purpose of harassing me on my Poolology channel. I think it's funny, but also sad, how extreme these guys can become simply because I've questioned some things about CTE. I've never personally attacked the character of Stan Shuffett or any other CTE supporter here, only asked questions and made comments based on my experience with CTE. And some of those comments were positive/supportive. I can only assume these guys are just not good people. Either that or they are just two-faced, acting one way online and another way in person.
What they refuse to believe is that I am the same online as I am in person, but apparently Low500 thinks I'm a fake. He says he is willing to find me in Vegas next week to see if I can really play. I'm in favor of that plan, but I have to admit that I'm a little concerned that he may be mentally unstable. Guys like this take aiming pool balls a bit too seriously, when it really means so very little in the big picture of living a happy life.
The argument isn't the way you are describing it. The argument is that the CTE people claim that it works in a way that no other method works, and that it is totally objective. In reality, it cannot work as described because that violates the laws of physics. Some people do seem to be happy with it but reality is that they are learning to pocket balls by rote just like everybody else. It's not that complicated but the CTE people simply cannot accept that. They prefer to call it a "mystery that was never supposed to be."
Learn CTE if you want to, but at least you should be clear on what the system can do and what it can't.