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01-14-2020, 03:12 AM

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Connie,

I've always thought of myself as a very trusting person, but as more information continues to be unearthed in this thread I'm starting to see what looks like a pattern of double talk going on here. So much misunderstanding, so many different accounts of the same event, so many contradictory claims about your system, so many conflicting views of what was, what is, and what will be. I'll be honest with you Connie. I'll be very surprised if somebody doesn't come along here in a while and just come right out and call BS on you. This is just turning into a mess. Please straighten things out.

Thank you.
Here's a classic example of the problem's in the aiming forum. This guy Richard Boxcar, has never watched a CTE video, Never had any kind of CTE instruction, And has no interest in learning CTE. He is here posting strictly for his own amusement and to stir the pot. It's ridiculous.
  
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Here's a classic example of the problem's in the aiming forum. This guy Richard Boxcar, has never watched a CTE video, Never had any kind of CTE instruction, And has no interest in learning CTE. He is here posting strictly for his own amusement and to stir the pot. It's ridiculous.

Well shoot.

Clearly we must do a better job of vetting participants here. Perhaps we should organize a screening committee, develop a questionnaire, and conduct interviews. When deemed necessary the committee might want to do further background checks. In any case, at a minimum, they could certify qualified posters for the Aiming Forum and issue identification papers.

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Here's a classic example of the problem's in the aiming forum. This guy Richard Boxcar, has never watched a CTE video, Never had any kind of CTE instruction, And has no interest in learning CTE. He is here posting strictly for his own amusement and to stir the pot. It's ridiculous.
His name is Richard?


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Correct. CTE has never been successfully described as in 100%, not even close.
Stanís Truth Series will present explanations and demonstrations for exactly what CTE is for the very first time. You can access this series not for $100 or even $50, not even for the low cost of $25, but itís all yours to view for FREE.

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How sadistic do you have to be to allow all this bickering and bad feelings to continue on for years when all along you have the answer to end it all (the truth series) yet you withhold it for no apparent good reason?

On the other hand, Stan has already said on video that his new book will NOT address WHY his method supposedly works, only HOW to do it. The "why" is what has caused all the arguing not the "how." So forgive my skepticism.


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How sadistic do you have to be to allow all this bickering and bad feelings to continue on for years when all along you have the answer to end it all (the truth series) yet you withhold it for no apparent good reason?

On the other hand, Stan has already said on video that his new book will NOT address WHY his method supposedly works, only HOW to do it. The "why" is what has caused all the arguing not the "how." So forgive my skepticism.
The HOW has never existed in full detail and youíre stating here that you donít care about the HOW, but you care about the WHY. Makes no sense.

You might be the only the person on the planet thatís jumps right to the WHY ignoring the HOW.

The exact HOW must come first. The WHY exists in the midst of a phenomenon that occurs on a 2:1 surface.

There is no math yet, but fortunately Stan has developed the language for explaining the phenomenon. The math will come along, but it wonít be your head to figure it out. You donít have it, Buster.

Hereís some good math for you: 99.999% of those interest in CTE are interested in HOW, not WHY.

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The HOW has never existed in full detail and youíre stating here that you donít care about the HOW, but you care about the WHY. Makes no sense.

You might be the only the person on the planet thatís jumps right to the WHY ignoring the HOW.

The exact HOW must come first. The WHY exists in the midst of a phenomenon that occurs on a 2:1 surface.

There is no math yet, but fortunately Stan has developed the language for explaining the phenomenon. The math will come along, but it wonít be your head to figure it out. You donít have it, Buster.

Hereís some good math for you: 99.999% of those interest in CTE are interested in HOW, not WHY.

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BC21 just explained the HOW in one paragraph. Stan's many videos and DVD's get you there very close to the real deal. You just said that yourself. So everybody already knows the HOW except for some new material you claim is in the book. You have not been privy to the years of discussion on this forum, if you really are Connie, so your ignorance can be excused. Nothing personal. Stan's position on HOW it works is the nut of the problem. Every physicist/scientist/engineer/person with common sense has understood and commented on the fact that Stan's description of the HOW does not stand up to scrutiny. Instead of accepting that and trying to understand it and simply move forward with his system, Stan holds to an untenable position and claims that his system is 100% objective and unlike anything else. Most would say that is a late night sales job but most of us believe that Stan actually believes it.

The issue is about the WHY. Nobody cares about the HOW because you can choose just about any method of aiming that you want and eventually your brain will figure out a way to make it work.


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BC21 just explained the HOW in one paragraph. Stan's many videos and DVD's get you there very close to the real deal. You just said that yourself. So everybody already knows the HOW except for some new material you claim is in the book. You have not been privy to the years of discussion on this forum, if you really are Connie, so your ignorance can be excused. Nothing personal. Stan's position on HOW it works is the nut of the problem. Every physicist/scientist/engineer/person with common sense has understood and commented on the fact that Stan's description of the HOW does not stand up to scrutiny. Instead of accepting that and trying to understand it and simply move forward with his system, Stan holds to an untenable position and claims that his system is 100% objective and unlike anything else. Most would say that is a late night sales job but most of us believe that Stan actually believes it.

The issue is about the WHY. Nobody cares about the HOW because you can choose just about any method of aiming that you want and eventually your brain will figure out a way to make it work.
Here’s plain English.

The description for Hal’s CTE has never existed in the public domain. YOU, Buster, can’t explain the HOW for CTE. In fact, no one in your Aiming Police Force get past first base with THE resolution for HOW to arrive at an objective center cue ball.

Your investigation should want the HOW first and then worry about tackling the WHY next.

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Hereís plain English.

The description for Halís CTE has never existed in the public domain. YOU, Buster, canít explain the HOW for CTE. In fact, no one in your Aiming Police Force get past first base with THE resolution for HOW to arrive at an objective center cue ball.

Your investigation should want the HOW first and then worry about tackling the WHY next.

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You always want it both ways. You say some of your youtube videos (the ones you took down) are wrong but actually they are right. The DVDs were right but they aren't 100% right etc etc.

Now you are acting like nobody knows anything at all about the HOW. Did you completely scrap your prior material and now the book contains a completely different method? I'm saying everybody knows the HOW the way you have described it for years. You are saying that what you have disclosed in the past is not 100% complete but is nearly so. Fine. We know the HOW 99%.

Fact is, we also know the WHY but the real explanation is one you refuse to accept. Apparently you are confirming that you do not address WHY it works no do you understand it. It seems as far as you've gotten in 20 years is that the table has corners. The real explanation makes CTE far less sexy and I'm sorry that you continue to perpetuate this myth and create all this hysteria.


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You always want it both ways. You say some of your youtube videos (the ones you took down) are wrong but actually they are right. The DVDs were right but they aren't 100% right etc etc.

Now you are acting like nobody knows anything at all about the HOW. Did you completely scrap your prior material and now the book contains a completely different method? I'm saying everybody knows the HOW the way you have described it for years. You are saying that what you have disclosed in the past is not 100% complete but is nearly so. Fine. We know the HOW 99%.

Fact is, we also know the WHY but the real explanation is one you refuse to accept. Apparently you are confirming that you do not address WHY it works no do you understand it. It seems as far as you've gotten in 20 years is that the table has corners. The real explanation makes CTE far less sexy and I'm sorry that you continue to perpetuate this myth and create all this hysteria.
Be my guest. Spill the HOW and the WHY.

Stan and a ton of others can make his existing instructions work.

Brian is out as he has already publicly stated that he can’t make his HOW description work except for certain cut angles.

Stan has his existing HOW instructions covered. Stan can demonstrate them and can explain in uncanny detail how the underpinnings of his instruction since 2010 work for arriving at center cue ball.


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Be my guest. Spill the HOW and the WHY.

Stan and a ton of others can make his existing instructions work.

Brian is out as he has already publicly stated that he canít make his HOW description work except for certain cut angles.

Stan has his existing HOW instructions covered. Stan can demonstrate them and can explain in uncanny detail how the underpinnings of his instruction since 2010 work for arriving at center cue ball.


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Ref the bold, for the record.... My "HOW" is Stan's how. Thats a weird sentence. Anyway, it's exactly as described and demonstrated by him. The fact that I can't "make" it work on every cut angle is simply because I haven't invested the time it takes to program my brain to make it work for every cut angle.

For example, there's a cool 15 ball curtain video on Stan's YouTube channel. I can make all of those shots using manual CTE because there are only 5 or 6 cut angles used in that video. Sure, there are 15 shots total, about half to the left corner and half to the right corner, but many of those shots are the exact same cut angle setup/staged in a different position.

None of this matters... I do think it will be very beneficial to many players if the truth series and book provide fresh/improved methods of making the system work without having to hit 500 to a 1000 balls per day before it really starts clicking. If it requires that much practice, it is utilizing a little thing called neuroplasticity, which involves programming the brain to recognize and recall data needed to help build and strengthen new synaptic connections/pathways that allow us to perform complex skills with very little awareness of exactly how we are doing it. It's a fascinating subject, but not exactly engaging conversation for the aiming forum.


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Be my guest. Spill the HOW and the WHY.

Stan and a ton of others can make his existing instructions work.

Brian is out as he has already publicly stated that he canít make his HOW description work except for certain cut angles.

Stan has his existing HOW instructions covered. Stan can demonstrate them and can explain in uncanny detail how the underpinnings of his instruction since 2010 work for arriving at center cue ball.


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Connie, I might have missed it as I haven't looked through all the pages. But any idea when Stan will be releasing The Truth Series ?
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Ref the bold, for the record.... My "HOW" is Stan's how. Thats a weird sentence. Anyway, it's exactly as described and demonstrated by him. The fact that I can't "make" it work on every cut angle is simply because I haven't invested the time it takes to program my brain to make it work for every cut angle.

For example, there's a cool 15 ball curtain video on Stan's YouTube channel. I can make all of those shots using manual CTE because there are only 5 or 6 cut angles used in that video. Sure, there are 15 shots total, about half to the left corner and half to the right corner, but many of those shots are the exact same cut angle setup/staged in a different position.

None of this matters... I do think it will be very beneficial to many players if the truth series and book provide fresh/improved methods of making the system work without having to hit 500 to a 1000 balls per day before it really starts clicking. If it requires that much practice, it is utilizing a little thing called neuroplasticity, which involves programming the brain to recognize and recall data needed to help build and strengthen new synaptic connections/pathways that allow us to perform complex skills with very little awareness of exactly how we are doing it. It's a fascinating subject, but not exactly engaging conversation for the aiming forum.


Your “How description” is weak with many gaps when it comes to actual application. And yes, you can make it work by feel and that’s where we part ways. You have stated more than once that it only works for certain cut angles. So, you’re OUT! Obviously, spitting out a bunch of words doesn’t mean a thing if your understanding is lacking and it certainly is. There’s not a soul on this planet that you can successfully teach center cue ball CTE to.You can teach feel with the best of’em. Unfortunately, the demand for Guesswork CTE is largely shelved these days. Thank goodness!

Brian, just drop CTE and don’t worry about others and what they’ll have to do. You’re as lost as lost can be with CTE.

Not going to keep spinning this wheel.

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Connie, I might have missed it as I haven't looked through all the pages. But any idea when Stan will be releasing The Truth Series ?
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Hereís how it will unfold.
Stanís website will be newly reconstructed prior to his book release.
Stanís Truth Series will be released at about the same time as his book, perhaps a day before.

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The contradictions and self-defeating arguments are enough for a book itself.
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