Go Back   AzBilliards.com > Products Talk > Ask The Cuemaker
Reload this Page Uni-Lock Quick Release or Radial Pins?
Reply
Page 1 of 2 1 2
 
Share Thread Tools Rate Thread
Uni-Lock Quick Release or Radial Pins?
Old
  (#1)
Phoenixblade
AzB Silver Member
Phoenixblade has a reputation beyond reputePhoenixblade has a reputation beyond reputePhoenixblade has a reputation beyond reputePhoenixblade has a reputation beyond reputePhoenixblade has a reputation beyond reputePhoenixblade has a reputation beyond reputePhoenixblade has a reputation beyond reputePhoenixblade has a reputation beyond reputePhoenixblade has a reputation beyond reputePhoenixblade has a reputation beyond reputePhoenixblade has a reputation beyond repute
 
Phoenixblade's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 60
vCash: 500
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Queen City of the South (Philippines)
  Send a message via Yahoo to Phoenixblade  
Uni-Lock Quick Release or Radial Pins? - 06-09-2009, 11:48 AM

Which do you prefer Uni-Lock Quick Release or Radial Pins? effects of those two interms of playability of the cue???
  
Reply With Quote

Old
  (#2)
Eruditass
AzB Silver Member
Eruditass has a reputation beyond reputeEruditass has a reputation beyond reputeEruditass has a reputation beyond reputeEruditass has a reputation beyond reputeEruditass has a reputation beyond reputeEruditass has a reputation beyond reputeEruditass has a reputation beyond reputeEruditass has a reputation beyond reputeEruditass has a reputation beyond reputeEruditass has a reputation beyond reputeEruditass has a reputation beyond repute
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 550
vCash: 500
iTrader: 3 / 100%
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
   
06-09-2009, 11:51 AM

radial. more feedback and contact, while some quick release have a tendency to come slightly unscrewed during play. The brass insert of the quick release may allow slihgtly more forward balance though.
  
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#3)
macguy
AzB Silver Member
macguy has a reputation beyond reputemacguy has a reputation beyond reputemacguy has a reputation beyond reputemacguy has a reputation beyond reputemacguy has a reputation beyond reputemacguy has a reputation beyond reputemacguy has a reputation beyond reputemacguy has a reputation beyond reputemacguy has a reputation beyond reputemacguy has a reputation beyond reputemacguy has a reputation beyond repute
 
macguy's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 8,748
vCash: 500
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Join Date: Aug 2003
   
06-09-2009, 12:04 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenixblade View Post
Which do you prefer Uni-Lock Quick Release or Radial Pins? effects of those two interms of playability of the cue???
Am I the only one who thinks the quick release joints are goofy?
  
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#4)
rhncue
AzB Silver Member
rhncue has a reputation beyond reputerhncue has a reputation beyond reputerhncue has a reputation beyond reputerhncue has a reputation beyond reputerhncue has a reputation beyond reputerhncue has a reputation beyond reputerhncue has a reputation beyond reputerhncue has a reputation beyond reputerhncue has a reputation beyond reputerhncue has a reputation beyond reputerhncue has a reputation beyond repute
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 4,651
vCash: 500
iTrader: 12 / 100%
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Cincinnati OH
   
06-09-2009, 04:04 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by macguy View Post
Am I the only one who thinks the quick release joints are goofy?
I build totally custom cues. What ever the customer wants, I usually build. My standard pin is a brass Radial pin. I try to talk people into using that pin as I'm set up for it's use. If the customer demands I'll use another pin, at an additional cost, except a Uni-loc, unless it is a J/B cue. I believe it is an inferior designed pin that is not needed in a playing cue. Is it so important to be able to put your cue together or apart 2 or 3 seconds faster when starting or finishing play? The first time someone gets a bit of dirt in their joint and can't get the shaft off they won't like them so much either.

Dick


Dick Neighbors
RHN Custom Billiard Cues
Cincinnati, OH
http://www.dickiecues.com
e-mail dickiecues@gmail.com
(513) 830-4321
  
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#5)
Varney Cues
Handcrafted quality!
Varney Cues has a reputation beyond reputeVarney Cues has a reputation beyond reputeVarney Cues has a reputation beyond reputeVarney Cues has a reputation beyond reputeVarney Cues has a reputation beyond reputeVarney Cues has a reputation beyond reputeVarney Cues has a reputation beyond reputeVarney Cues has a reputation beyond reputeVarney Cues has a reputation beyond reputeVarney Cues has a reputation beyond reputeVarney Cues has a reputation beyond repute
 
Varney Cues's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 6,761
vCash: 25
iTrader: 108 / 98%
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: NC
   
06-09-2009, 09:51 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by rhncue View Post
I believe it is an inferior designed pin that is not needed in a playing cue. Is it so important to be able to put your cue together or apart 2 or 3 seconds faster when starting or finishing play? The first time someone gets a bit of dirt in their joint and can't get the shaft off they won't like them so much either.

Dick
Dick I agree 100%. You'll never see one in a Varney cue. If someone needs a quicker pin in the jump joint then I'd rather cut half the threads off a 3/8-10 and have it screw into phenolic....works fine & thats as quick as you need.


Play with a VARNEY or get beat by one!
.45acp...when you care enough to send the very best!
Cash ain't heavy...carry some!
kvarney@carolina.rr.com
  
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#6)
poolstixx
AzB Silver Member
poolstixx has a reputation beyond reputepoolstixx has a reputation beyond reputepoolstixx has a reputation beyond reputepoolstixx has a reputation beyond reputepoolstixx has a reputation beyond reputepoolstixx has a reputation beyond reputepoolstixx has a reputation beyond reputepoolstixx has a reputation beyond reputepoolstixx has a reputation beyond reputepoolstixx has a reputation beyond reputepoolstixx has a reputation beyond repute
 
poolstixx's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 178
vCash: 500
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: portland, or
  Send a message via Skype™ to poolstixx 
06-09-2009, 10:31 PM

I agree with Mr. Varney.


A sneaky Pete is a sneaky Pete.
"a full splice is much, much more than that"
  
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#7)
JoeyInCali
AzB Silver Member

JoeyInCali has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyInCali has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyInCali has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyInCali has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyInCali has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyInCali has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyInCali has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyInCali has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyInCali has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyInCali has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyInCali has a reputation beyond repute
 
JoeyInCali's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 23,674
vCash: 4400
iTrader: 80 / 100%
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: OC, California
   
06-09-2009, 11:25 PM

The radial only takes 8 turns to tighten.
If you're too lazy to do that, you're probably jumping on all of your shots .


  
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#8)
Sheldon
dontneednostinkintitle
Sheldon has a reputation beyond reputeSheldon has a reputation beyond reputeSheldon has a reputation beyond reputeSheldon has a reputation beyond reputeSheldon has a reputation beyond reputeSheldon has a reputation beyond reputeSheldon has a reputation beyond reputeSheldon has a reputation beyond reputeSheldon has a reputation beyond reputeSheldon has a reputation beyond reputeSheldon has a reputation beyond repute
 
Sheldon's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 3,232
vCash: 500
iTrader: 6 / 100%
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Sanitarium
   
06-09-2009, 11:33 PM

They both install very accurately, and you'd be extremely hard-pressed to tell the difference in how they play if you didn't know which pin was in the cue.

I think the Radial is a better system though. Less prone to problems down the road, and more durable.
  
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#9)
Phoenixblade
AzB Silver Member
Phoenixblade has a reputation beyond reputePhoenixblade has a reputation beyond reputePhoenixblade has a reputation beyond reputePhoenixblade has a reputation beyond reputePhoenixblade has a reputation beyond reputePhoenixblade has a reputation beyond reputePhoenixblade has a reputation beyond reputePhoenixblade has a reputation beyond reputePhoenixblade has a reputation beyond reputePhoenixblade has a reputation beyond reputePhoenixblade has a reputation beyond repute
 
Phoenixblade's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 60
vCash: 500
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Queen City of the South (Philippines)
  Send a message via Yahoo to Phoenixblade  
06-10-2009, 10:35 AM

Thanks guys Radial Pin Wins ..im also confuse bout The United Joint from the Mezz Cues...Anywayz I'll stick to Radial
  
Reply With Quote
outrun
Old
  (#10)
RocketQ
It's Not Rocket Science
RocketQ has a reputation beyond reputeRocketQ has a reputation beyond reputeRocketQ has a reputation beyond reputeRocketQ has a reputation beyond reputeRocketQ has a reputation beyond reputeRocketQ has a reputation beyond reputeRocketQ has a reputation beyond reputeRocketQ has a reputation beyond reputeRocketQ has a reputation beyond reputeRocketQ has a reputation beyond reputeRocketQ has a reputation beyond repute
 
RocketQ's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 1,252
vCash: 500
iTrader: 9 / 100%
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Latrobe, Pennsylvania
   
outrun - 06-10-2009, 12:35 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by rhncue View Post
I build totally custom cues. What ever the customer wants, I usually build. My standard pin is a brass Radial pin. I try to talk people into using that pin as I'm set up for it's use. If the customer demands I'll use another pin, at an additional cost, except a Uni-loc, unless it is a J/B cue. I believe it is an inferior designed pin that is not needed in a playing cue. Is it so important to be able to put your cue together or apart 2 or 3 seconds faster when starting or finishing play? The first time someone gets a bit of dirt in their joint and can't get the shaft off they won't like them so much either.

Dick
Sometimes you have to outrun the bad guys.... LOL

I don't like the quick release either. Seems to deaden the vibration.

John


John Rocker
It's only worth it if you do it right.
Rocketq@rocketcues.com
http://www.rocketcues.com
Authorized Bludworth Repair Shop
Authorized Longoni North America Repair Shop
  
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#11)
Michael Webb
AzB Silver Member
Michael Webb has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Webb has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Webb has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Webb has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Webb has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Webb has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Webb has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Webb has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Webb has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Webb has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Webb has a reputation beyond repute
 
Michael Webb's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 6,023
vCash: 500
iTrader: 18 / 100%
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: RI
   
06-10-2009, 06:13 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by macguy View Post
Am I the only one who thinks the quick release joints are goofy?
No Sir, You are not.


Best Wishes
Michael Webb
  
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#12)
measureman
AzB Silver Member
measureman has a reputation beyond reputemeasureman has a reputation beyond reputemeasureman has a reputation beyond reputemeasureman has a reputation beyond reputemeasureman has a reputation beyond reputemeasureman has a reputation beyond reputemeasureman has a reputation beyond reputemeasureman has a reputation beyond reputemeasureman has a reputation beyond reputemeasureman has a reputation beyond reputemeasureman has a reputation beyond repute
 
measureman's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 7,435
vCash: 1500
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Denver
   
06-14-2009, 08:37 PM

Interesting thread ,no one likes the uni lock joint.I found a list of cue makers who use it.Not trying to start an arguement but...........
Dishaw
DP
Drexler
Falcon
GW
Joss West
Lucasi
McDermott
Preditor
The list is on the Billards Warehouse site for Universal shafts.


Playing cue- The Mighty Lucasi Cocobolo
Back up cue - Troy Downey

I woke up.
Triangles tips and Masters chalk are good enough.




The Truth: If you have a stroke the gear don't matter... If you don't have a stroke the gear won't help.
The above quote by Softshot
  
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#13)
Michael Webb
AzB Silver Member
Michael Webb has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Webb has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Webb has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Webb has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Webb has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Webb has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Webb has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Webb has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Webb has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Webb has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Webb has a reputation beyond repute
 
Michael Webb's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 6,023
vCash: 500
iTrader: 18 / 100%
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: RI
   
06-14-2009, 09:36 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by measureman View Post
Interesting thread ,no one likes the uni lock joint.I found a list of cue makers who use it.Not trying to start an arguement but...........
Dishaw
DP
Drexler
Falcon
GW
Joss West
Lucasi
McDermott
Preditor
The list is on the Billards Warehouse site for Universal shafts.
You'll get no argument from me, But here's my thoughts on it, I work on a lot of cues, I have used it in three cues in my career, I'm just not that impressed with anything about it. Everyone says, Ohhhhhhhhhhh, the cue goes together so quick, I said that's nice, What are you going to do that 5 more seconds is going to change. There are other reasons but Please accept my nice guy answer.
Thanks


Best Wishes
Michael Webb
  
Reply With Quote
Does a decade make a difference?
Old
  (#14)
Luposian
AzB Bronze Member
Luposian is on a distinguished road
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 11
vCash: 500
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Join Date: Oct 2019
   
Does a decade make a difference? - 10-17-2019, 01:15 PM

Looks like I'm coming into this thread a bit late, but wondering if, in 10 years, has anything changed about the "quick-lock" (or the dozen other names/ways that are used) system for cues? Are they any better? Used more? Used less?

I don't see a problem taking the time to assemble/disassemble my Eastpoint 1-1-01226-WPP cue. There's a "feeling" to that time taken. Even if you're a total amatuer player, like me. It's all part of the game. The set-up, getting ready to play, and the take-down, when you're done playing. It's not an inconvenience... it's a warm-up and cool-down period! I think it shows a type of professionalism to the entire experience of the pool game, not just an insignificant moment before and after the game. Any thoughts?
  
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#15)
Michael Webb
AzB Silver Member
Michael Webb has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Webb has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Webb has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Webb has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Webb has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Webb has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Webb has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Webb has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Webb has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Webb has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Webb has a reputation beyond repute
 
Michael Webb's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 6,023
vCash: 500
iTrader: 18 / 100%
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: RI
   
10-17-2019, 01:40 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Luposian View Post
Looks like I'm coming into this thread a bit late, but wondering if, in 10 years, has anything changed about the "quick-lock" (or the dozen other names/ways that are used) system for cues? Are they any better? Used more? Used less?

I don't see a problem taking the time to assemble/disassemble my Eastpoint 1-1-01226-WPP cue. There's a "feeling" to that time taken. Even if you're a total amatuer player, like me. It's all part of the game. The set-up, getting ready to play, and the take-down, when you're done playing. It's not an inconvenience... it's a warm-up and cool-down period! I think it shows a type of professionalism to the entire experience of the pool game, not just an insignificant moment before and after the game. Any thoughts?
I can tell you the quick release hasn't changed, but I have. It has become one of my most popular requested joints.
My comfort zone and experience working with it is the only change. I'm glad I did.


Best Wishes
Michael Webb
  
Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 1 of 2 1 2

Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.