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HH and VS review - 10-16-2013, 04:37 PM

I put the HH on a Gilbert JB that had a Samsara before. I like the way it holds chalk and gives extra control, which is what I was looking for, but the "pop" is gone. It needs to be a touch harder or maybe I should have pressed it before the install. I will tinker with it. Maybe hit a few hundred racks or whittle it down a tad to see if I can get what I am looking for. The upside is that JB now plays fantastic.

I removed a S and had a VS installed on my gilbert player for a test. Both are very close in feel for me. I like it for games like 9 or 8 ball. If it hardens up just a touch like the S did, it may be perfect.


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10-17-2013, 01:04 AM

Tried all the tips. VS, S, M, H, HH

They are all easy to install and they all holds chalk very well and grabs the cue ball pretty well too.

Tho, I could barely tell the difference between the VS and S.


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02-12-2014, 11:42 AM

I ordered some stuff from Seybert's and I needed to spend about six more dollars to get the free shipping, so I said "what the heck" and ordered an Ultraskin medium tip to make my order total $50. I finally got around to installing it on one of my custom cues the other day...and WOW, what a pleasant surprise! That tip is the best tip I have ever bought for the money ($6.95). Installed easily, plays great, holds chalk well, and so far, maintains its shape well. I refuse to say how well it moves the cue ball around...because personally, that's a matter of one's proficiency of the skills involved, but I will say that I was overly happy with the performance of this tip. I am definitely going to be buying and using a lot more of these tips in the future!!!

Great product!!! Five out of five stars!!!

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02-24-2014, 04:06 PM

so the pro tip is softer than the VS . I'm using a S right now and seems a little hard for me . I wanted to order 10 i was thinking of getting 5 of both. but i want the softer of the two

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02-24-2014, 06:49 PM

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so the pro tip is softer than the VS . I'm using a S right now and seems a little hard for me . I wanted to order 10 i was thinking of getting 5 of both. but i want the softer of the two
The PRO is very unique. The Feel is like a Medium, the grip and juice is like a super soft.

If the soft "Feels" hard to you the VS might be a better fit.


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02-25-2014, 02:56 PM

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The PRO is very unique. The Feel is like a Medium, the grip and juice is like a super soft.

+1 for the Pros... preferred

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02-25-2014, 03:08 PM

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Did anyone get a chance to try the HH yet? Opinions?
i have tom
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havent heard anything from either person
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02-25-2014, 07:22 PM

Okay thanks i like your tips only heard great things about them ill be ordering sum
  
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Thumbs up Review of install and customer comments - 05-11-2014, 06:11 PM

Before I start, a little back ground; I started installing tips for myself and friends 3 years ago, and we all used triangles or elk masters. Last year I decided to try the layered tips and a shop I stopped in to ask about them had 2 snipers and installed them while I tried out some break cues. Last month I decided it was time to replace one of them because it was getting a little thin. When studying up on installing layered tips after it arrived I read about the ultra skins, thought its worth the price to try.

I just received an order of 12 tips two weeks ago. That week I Installed a vs for a player that wanted " the softest tip you have." The tip was easier to install than the triangle and elk master tips. When it came to shaping with a razor knife, I was surprised at the lack of deflection in the tip, when compared to the sniper tip I'd done the week before on my personal cue. The sniper was the first layered tip I've installed myself, and I ordered it out of familiarity before I'd read about the ultra skins.

The customer came to me with a tip-less shaft after our next league night, causing my heart to sink, before stating he loves the vs tip and this shaft was for his wife's cue, and she wanted a soft. Installation of the soft was a little smoother feel than the vs, and I'm starting to hope more people will ask for the ultra skins.

This week, one of my team mates, (our anchor that is shooting lights out) asked if he could have a pro-soft after we discussed the previous installs. The leather in this tip cut and shaped like a dream for this rookie installer. He hasn't had the opportunity to shoot with it yet, but if it feels as good shooting as it did cutting, his review may lead to me placing a large order soon. ( he's very outgoing about gear, a solid shooter, and a hi review from him could lead to people jumping to try an affordable layered tip)

I believe the biggest reason for the installs getting progressively smoother is the gradual improvement in my abilities, as the tips layers all appear to be of high quality and consistency.

Just the way these tips feel when installing has lead to my decision to cut the sniper off my back-up shaft, even though it would probably last the summer, and try a pro soft myself.

I will post a follow up on my experience, as well as customer feed back when I can run into them and ask what their thoughts are.
  
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08-04-2015, 03:05 AM

Just installed an Ultraskin medium on my shaft, got rid of my Kamui medium black but left the clear pad on. Never seen anyone else do this before and figured I'd share, results turned out great. No one can tell the difference now haha.
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08-05-2015, 08:48 PM

I've got one on my shaft now like the way it plays but it keeps mushrooming not sure if the tip is just to soft for me or if maybe I got bad one idk I've heard nothing but good things hints why I got one anyone have this happen? I was told it was a med


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I received some ultraskin tips some weeks ago.
They are easy to install.
I have played with both hard and medium. I don't feel much difference between medium and hard. I normally play with tiger onyx tip, and there is no big difference - only the price being nicer on Tom Hay's tips.

The only problem I have had was with the soft tip. I installed it on a friends cue, and it popped off after 2-3 hours. This is the first tip I have installed since I started using Tiger CA glue, that has popped off. I have installed about 30 tips since I got that glue, and before that it did also only happen once with a moori tip after long time of play, and the tip was pretty worn down (same persons cue). I did install the tip just like I always do sanding off to roughen the backside of the tip, apply glue, waiting for at least two hours, cutting the tip and sanding on lathe. I guess I was just unlucky. Have to mention that the same person also managed to break a no-collar shaft some months ago. Any ideas?
Sand the tip and then prep it with CA thin.... dab off the excess and hit it with kicker.... lightly sand and install as usual............it won't pop off


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06-22-2016, 02:30 AM

So, I've put a Ultrakins M on my R360 on the weekend.

I was a bit disappointed - it was considerably harder than a Tiger Onyx (which I already consider as a harder medium). Shaping was also a bit hard due to it being very very hard for my taste (I shaped a Onyx a few weeks before with the same tools).
For me, I needed to sand with an 80 and then a 120 and cut some grooves in for the super glue gel to work properly.


Please don't get me wrong:
- Each layer is very consistent and the leather is of high quality
- There are a lot of layers to work through - it will last a long time
- It's very black
- Surface after shaping and roughing up is just like you would image one to be, very nice
- It holds chalk very well
- Sidewall can be polished up easily
- Feedback is nice, like an Onyx but less springy and very direct

Is there a chance of softening it up a bit?

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06-22-2016, 07:31 PM

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So, I've put a Ultrakins M on my R360 on the weekend.

I was a bit disappointed - it was considerably harder than a Tiger Onyx (which I already consider as a harder medium). Shaping was also a bit hard due to it being very very hard for my taste (I shaped a Onyx a few weeks before with the same tools).
For me, I needed to sand with an 80 and then a 120 and cut some grooves in for the super glue gel to work properly.


Please don't get me wrong:
- Each layer is very consistent and the leather is of high quality
- There are a lot of layers to work through - it will last a long time
- It's very black
- Surface after shaping and roughing up is just like you would image one to be, very nice
- It holds chalk very well
- Sidewall can be polished up easily
- Feedback is nice, like an Onyx but less springy and very direct

Is there a chance of softening it up a bit?

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