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10-20-2019, 06:38 PM

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Pretty simple, if you own a table do you have separate small patch of cloth you put the CB on when you break?

Finally about to get the table recovered and it crossed my mind. It's gonna get marks anyway. But I do break from the same spot most of the time.
I do for a while but it doesn't stop the tracks down the table. In fact I think it may make them worse. Eventually, I stop using one.


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10-20-2019, 06:43 PM

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Pretty simple, if you own a table do you have separate small patch of cloth you put the CB on when you break?

Finally about to get the table recovered and it crossed my mind. It's gonna get marks anyway. But I do break from the same spot most of the time.
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10-20-2019, 10:10 PM

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Pretty simple, if you own a table do you have separate small patch of cloth you put the CB on when you break?

Finally about to get the table recovered and it crossed my mind. It's gonna get marks anyway. But I do break from the same spot most of the time.
I never have used one on any of my tables, however if thereís one on a table I always use it out of respect for who wants it.

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10-21-2019, 07:45 AM

Break cloths are too thick. They compress, and cause the cue ball to hop. This will create more burn marks on the cue ball's path to the rack.

Use a dollar bill instead. Paper money is made of cloth, so it's durable. It is thinner than table cloth, so it compresses less. When jumping, this will give better feedback, as using table cloth will make jumping much easier, giving you a false sense of accomplishment.


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10-21-2019, 08:13 AM

As others here have mentioned I think break pads are useless. When I first replaced my cloth I used a small piece of paper, it works great. The problem is that it only protects the spot where the cue ball sits, it does nothing for the lines and hop marks you inevitably get as the cue ball travels towards the rack. Since I usually play 8 ball it took awhile to develop the common 9 ball lines from the rail to the rack but I still have them as well as as many, many lines/marks traveling from between the 3 middle diamonds to the center of the rack. I also have 2 very worn marks around the outside 2 head rail diamonds which I think is from the corner balls and lines going down the rail grooves to every pocket. Im about to recover my table again, this time I am going with Tournament Blue instead of green which I think will help cut down on cloth wear. At any point it is much cheaper for us to recover our tables every so often rather than feeding quarters into a table or paying by the hour.

PS those worried about a break cloth might want to consider a racking cloth too because you will also create a lot of wear where you fill the rack before sliding it up to the dot.
  
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10-21-2019, 10:56 AM

Put the cue ball on a playing card...problem solved...quick, simple, easy and effective solution...
  
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10-21-2019, 02:41 PM

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Break cloths are too thick. They compress, and cause the cue ball to hop. This will create more burn marks on the cue ball's path to the rack.

Use a dollar bill instead. Paper money is made of cloth, so it's durable. It is thinner than table cloth, so it compresses less. When jumping, this will give better feedback, as using table cloth will make jumping much easier, giving you a false sense of accomplishment.
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10-21-2019, 03:10 PM

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Speaking of the Outsville ďShark Skin Table Saver,Ē does anyone use these or have feedback on them? Not terribly expensive I know, but if itís a definite buy/donít buy Iíd like to gather opinions before proceeding.



Any takers?


I have some. If Iím required to use a pad, this is a vastly better option than the giant mattress a spare cut of cloth provides. If youíre into the the break, I canít imagine using anything under your cueball.

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10-21-2019, 03:15 PM

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I've have used a break cloth on my home table for 25 years. It really extends the life of the cloth and does not detract from breaking at all.



I originally used a small piece of newspaper but now only use a patch of Simonis.


With respect, you either donít break very hard, or donít really know too much about the break. Youíre way better off using the newspaper.

Really anyone that prioritizes the look of the table (which takes years to accumulate enough break marks to be an issue) over the proper play just indicates that they are a different type of ďplayerĒ. No offense but it most assuredly affects the break. You just donít notice.

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I do for a while but it doesn't stop the tracks down the table. In fact I think it may make them worse. Eventually, I stop using one.


Youíre going to have the cueball bouncing more, thatís for sure.

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10-21-2019, 04:47 PM

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With respect, you either donít break very hard, or donít really know too much about the break. Youíre way better off using the newspaper.

Really anyone that prioritizes the look of the table (which takes years to accumulate enough break marks to be an issue) over the proper play just indicates that they are a different type of ďplayerĒ. No offense but it most assuredly affects the break. You just donít notice.

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I agree 100%.

Once a person develops a good break, they will literally hate using a break pad regardless of how thin. It makes a big difference in how the cb reacts before and after contact with the head ball causing all sorts of negative outcomes from bad position on 1 ball to not being able to control where specific balls in rack end up. In a close match, it is a deal breaker (no pun intended).

I'm lucky enough to have access to places that don't care if I practice my AR, 10 ball and 9 ball breaks 7 days a week.

Now, if I could only physically practice my break for more than 15 or 20 minutes without having my back, neck and shoulders feel like they are gonna explode, I would take advantage of the practice opportunities way more often.

Since I'm not able to do so, I'll stay with 14.1 and starting with different break positions on each break. That way there is absolutely no need for a pad.

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I agree 100%.



Once a person develops a good break, they will literally hate using a break pad regardless of how thin. It makes a big difference in how the cb reacts before and after contact with the head ball causing all sorts of negative outcomes from bad position on 1 ball to not being able to control where specific balls in rack end up. In a close match, it is a deal breaker (no pun intended).



I'm lucky enough to have access to places that don't care if I practice my AR, 10 ball and 9 ball breaks 7 days a week.



Now, if I could only physically practice my break for more than 15 or 20 minutes without having my back, neck and shoulders feel like they are gonna explode, I would take advantage of the practice opportunities way more often.



Since I'm not able to do so, I'll stay with 14.1 and starting with different break positions on each break. That way there is absolutely no need for a pad.



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10-21-2019, 11:38 PM

I'm using a break pad, it's a cloth for cleaning sunglasses. It is thin enough and don't affect my break.
  
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10-22-2019, 10:37 AM

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I'm using a break pad, it's a cloth for cleaning sunglasses. It is thin enough and don't affect my break.


Iíve seen and used those. They affect the break. Whether or not someone notices is a different topic.

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10-22-2019, 04:08 PM

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PS those worried about a break cloth might want to consider a racking cloth too because you will also create a lot of wear where you fill the rack before sliding it up to the dot.
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