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Arrow The American Dream. Living in a shipping container. - 01-05-2015, 07:17 AM

How long till they require diversity ratios based on race on who is going to live in these things.


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Shipping container home readying for Detroit debut

By JEFF KAROUB
Associated Press

DETROIT (AP) - An unusual home taking shape inside General Motors' sprawling Detroit-Hamtramck Assembly plant is intended to be part of a movement to rebuild the city's economy and deteriorating, disappearing housing stock.

Skilled-trades workers, taking breaks from their tasks at the factory that produces the electric Chevrolet Volt and other vehicles, dart in and out to do door, window and wall installation and framing, as well as electrical and plumbing work. Meanwhile, a nonprofit urban farming group is preparing property a few miles away that will welcome the project, what's believed to be the city's first occupied shipping container homestead.

Come spring, the house-in-progress will be delivered to Detroit's North End neighborhood and secured on a foundation where a blighted home once stood. After finishing touches and final inspections, the 40-foot-long former container will feature 320 square feet of living space with two bedrooms, a bathroom and a kitchen, and will serve as home base for a university-student caretakers of a neighborhood farm and agricultural research activities.

One shipping container home won't turn around Detroit's housing woes. The city emerging from bankruptcy has roughly 40,000 vacant homes waiting to be demolished. But it's a start and, organizers hope, a model to lure and keep residents as Detroit removes blight and recovers from bankruptcy.

Shipping containers converted into living or working spaces are common in some other cities. For instance, in Salt Lake City's rundown warehouse district, a nonprofit group last year converted them into "micro-retail" spaces. A Seattle-based company designs and builds houses out of reclaimed containers.

Containers have been modified for both basic and luxury living elsewhere. But Tyson Gersh of the Michigan Urban Farming Initiative is unaware of another project involving a major manufacturer and nonprofit designed to serve many socio-economic needs through what he calls "social innovation."

Organizers hope the container project can lure millennials who don't want their grandfather's bungalow yet also provide predominantly poor, longtime residents with a low-cost housing alternative.

"Finding a place where both those communities can find common ground is beautiful," said Gersh, president and co-founder of the group that operates a farm and owns property in the North End, where blight and vacancy are common, but so are signs of residential and commercial renewal. "It's scalable, works for everyone and it's also not going to ruin the environment. It's easier to maintain and can repurpose existing materials."

Gersh said reusing the containers and other components has environmental benefits but points out that people working solely toward that end "are doing it from a position of privilege," and that's "not what Detroit is."

For its part, the automaker met with Gersh and others from the farming group a couple years ago, and the container home idea immediately resonated. GM spokesman David Darovitz said it fits with the company's goals of reducing landfill waste while boosting reuse and recycling of materials. For instance, the home's front door had been discarded by the plant and was salvaged on its way to the landfill.

"I loved the creative idea of taking and reusing an old shipping container and giving new life," Darovitz said. "It can be used as a model for a bigger idea that's structurally sound."

Both GM and the nonprofit see the potential to grow the idea and are exploring ways to continue. But first they must finish a process that's faced many challenges, including the long wait for the existing home on the lot to default into tax auction and finding a functional sewer line.

Another roadblock to building more storage container homes is figuring out how to price them. Now, Darovitz said, there is nothing to assess them against, since neighboring lots often are blighted or vacant.

Still, those involved aren't deterred and view the effort as a microcosm of the kind needed to rejuvenate Detroit. They take inspiration from how city, state and federal officials forged deals with financial institutions and lassoed philanthropic organizations to save pensions and city-owned artwork and get through bankruptcy.

"That is Detroit - that's what's happening," Gersh said. "It takes a village to make a functional city."


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i've seen those - 01-05-2015, 08:00 AM

the containers are different sizes, but a lot of them are 8 by 40 if i remember 2k each, eight rooms for a total 2560 sq feet for 16k. i dont think you can build a stick house that size for 16k.

i looked into this when i was thinking about of selling my place, but decided to stay.
  
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01-05-2015, 08:51 AM

Stack em and pack em.

Perfect living quarters for our new wet er I mean Hispanic "citizens".
More cozy than the huts they lived in previously.
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01-05-2015, 09:53 AM

IF they are done right and used above ground they are nice...Done right means with sound deadening insulation...I was in one during rain and hail in South Dakota and it was not a nice place to be...There was just plywood on the walls and no insulation...Also a person should have multiple exits...Many people are too lazy to install an extra window or door...They should not be buried in the ground,they were designed to sit on top of one another and the support beams in the corners hold this load...
  
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01-05-2015, 09:57 AM

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the containers are different sizes, but a lot of them are 8 by 40 if i remember 2k each, eight rooms for a total 2560 sq feet for 16k. i dont think you can build a stick house that size for 16k.

i looked into this when i was thinking about of selling my place, but decided to stay.
Depends where a person lives...The price usually does not include delivery...Then to frame it out and add the proper insulation it all adds up.....I've lived in a small 150 sq ft cabin in the wilderness that I built for 2 years recently and it's not for everyone....
  
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01-05-2015, 10:02 AM

From 2012....a thread...."Shipping Containers to Become Condos in Detroit"

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=297142

From 2013....a thread...."Presenting TheThaigers Bachelor Pad"

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?p=4388698


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01-05-2015, 04:25 PM

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Side by side and stacking them. Some really nice ones.

Besides, I don't think that a 9 mm will penetrate a wall. Bonus.

I watched one video where a person buried one and made a very nice Panic Room. Ceement over top, dirt and grew flowers over top.

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Depends where a person lives...The price usually does not include delivery...Then to frame it out and add the proper insulation it all adds up.....I've lived in a small 150 sq ft cabin in the wilderness that I built for 2 years recently and it's not for everyone....
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Joey is Living Off the Grid.

RJ, Google it if you want to see some amazing layouts.

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01-05-2015, 06:40 PM

Sooooo, a sardine sees a container home for the first time and says...
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Yeah, ok, it's an old submarine joke.....

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From 2012....a thread...."Shipping Containers to Become Condos in Detroit"

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=297142

From 2013....a thread...."Presenting TheThaigers Bachelor Pad"

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?p=4388698
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Sev, you must subscribe to Living Off the Grid also.

Side by side and stacking them. Some really nice ones.

Besides, I don't think that a 9 mm will penetrate a wall. Bonus.

I watched one video where a person buried one and made a very nice Panic Room. Ceement over top, dirt and grew flowers over top.

Other than the stairway leading down, you wouldn't have known what was under there.
Yup.
However there is a difference.


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