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Fargorate and "Bar Bangers" - 11-20-2018, 09:12 PM

What is the cutoff above which you are no longer a "banger"?

With a numerical rating system shouldn't we now be able to quantify such things?

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11-20-2018, 09:46 PM

Maybe 300 and below?
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11-20-2018, 10:19 PM

[QUOTE=Dan Wolfe;6270646]Maybe 300 and below?

I was thinking it would lie in the mid 400s

Is a "shortstop" around 650?


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11-21-2018, 12:13 AM

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Maybe 300 and below?
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Atm 17 players have FR 800 or higher. As for FR 700 and Eurotour its more like 80th place Other than that i would say it is accurate
  
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11-21-2018, 04:05 AM

A banger isn’t a number, it’s a playing style. The best bangers are actually better players than many half decent players who aren’t bangers.
  
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11-21-2018, 04:32 AM

The real good bar table players seem to dislike it, in a handicap/tournament situations they have to give up too many games....one player says Fargo knocks their action. Me, I got caught up in the ''known ability'' grouping/dialogue during my prime. That was the norm before Fargo. Like anything tho, it will take time to work it self out. What I don't see, is if your getting worse as you get older that does NOT seem to apply. What's up with that?


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11-21-2018, 04:48 AM

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Maybe 300 and below?

I was thinking it would lie in the mid 400s

Is a "shortstop" around 650?


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I was thinking 680+ for shortstops. 730+ for pros. The water becomes murky when players get close to those numbers.
  
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11-21-2018, 05:11 AM

So what I’ve noticed with Fargo and APA is the following:

9ball
SL9 - Fargo 600+
SL7/8 - Fargo 550-600
SL6 - Fargo 500-550
SL5 - Fargo 400-500
SL4 - Fargo ~300-400

8ball
SL7 - Fargo 550+
SL6 - Fargo 500-550
SL5 - Fargo 400-500
SL4 - Fargo ~300-400

I only compared APA as it’s the most common and easiest comparison to use. Additionally the top SL has a huge margin. I’ve seen a Fargo 730 and 705 rated a SL9 as well as a Fargo 610. 8 ball is even crazier as I’ve seen a Fargo 550, Fargo 610, and Fargo 705 all rated as SL7. Getting back to the question though I think once you approach the SL4/Fargo ~400 you are considered more serious about the game. Pretty spot on with the range Fargo gives you.


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11-21-2018, 05:24 AM

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The 300 description is interesting. I guess we play in different leagues. Our lowest rated player is in the 300ís, highest is 696. Average player in our league is definitely over 500.
  
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11-21-2018, 05:33 AM

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Maybe 300 and below?

I was thinking it would lie in the mid 400s

Is a "shortstop" around 650?


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Agreed. Mid 400's is no longer a banger. They take the game seriously and are looking to break through their plateaus.


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This is worrisome. Since I am C/D social bar player, I am guessing my FR is lower than my IQ
  
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11-21-2018, 06:37 AM

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So what Iíve noticed with Fargo and APA is the following:

9ball
SL9 - Fargo 600+
SL7/8 - Fargo 550-600
SL6 - Fargo 500-550
SL5 - Fargo 400-500
SL4 - Fargo ~300-400

8ball
SL7 - Fargo 550+
SL6 - Fargo 500-550
SL5 - Fargo 400-500
SL4 - Fargo ~300-400

I only compared APA as itís the most common and easiest comparison to use. Additionally the top SL has a huge margin. Iíve seen a Fargo 730 and 705 rated a SL9 as well as a Fargo 610. 8 ball is even crazier as Iíve seen a Fargo 550, Fargo 610, and Fargo 705 all rated as SL7. Getting back to the question though I think once you approach the SL4/Fargo ~400 you are considered more serious about the game. Pretty spot on with the range Fargo gives you.
I concur with these. Not that it means anything. lol

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11-21-2018, 07:09 AM

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What is the cutoff above which you are no longer a "banger"?

With a numerical rating system shouldn't we now be able to quantify such things?

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Banger? IMO, a banger is someone that knows very little about the games. They have a terrible, choppy stroke, no PSR, they jerk back/forth in backswing transition, raise up on shots whole 9 ........ but are always the first to say "I'm a good player"...

I've known 4s and 5s that I would consider "not bangers", then again, I know some 6s and 7s that "i" consider bangers.

I don't like to use Fargo numbers to determine such things unless they have a certain robustness, as it can be inaccurate until the robustness is there.


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11-21-2018, 07:36 AM

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Maybe 300 and below?

I was thinking it would lie in the mid 400s

Is a "shortstop" around 650?


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400 is getting to C players, that is above what I would call a "banger". 200-300 tops.


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11-21-2018, 07:48 AM

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