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Renaissance Wax Question ? - 05-31-2015, 07:33 AM

I've used it before on just a regular playing cue without any problem, but I also own a safe queen of a hi end cue maker and I'm hesitant and concerned about applying anything to that particular cue. I was wondering what the actual cue makers use before it leaves their shops, if any, and is Renaissance a wise choice to protect the cue over time ?
  
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05-31-2015, 07:50 AM

I use just carnuba wax on cues....

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05-31-2015, 08:47 AM

Thanks Kim, but is anyone using the " Renaissance " brand ?
  
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05-31-2015, 08:57 AM

Renaissance Wax was developed specifically to protect and preserve museum pieces.
I think it says so on the can. Yup, it does, I just checked.
Why would you be concerned about it preserving and protecting a cue.
IMO, there's nothing better. Question is...does the queen have worthiness ?

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05-31-2015, 10:48 AM

All my cues get a touch of Renaissance Wax before leaving the shop. Good stuff.

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05-31-2015, 12:11 PM

It is great to use on linen wraps also. I burnish them with an index card after applying.



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06-02-2015, 01:31 PM

I tried the Renaissance wax after reading this thread http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=394833

The Renaissance wax smells like petroleum when I first opened the container but there's no smell after I applied it to the shaft. The finish is smoother and less glossy (which I think is a good thing) than the Q Wax that I used before.
  
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wax - 06-02-2015, 10:37 PM

I love Renaissance Wax. I use it on everything. I have a pretty expensive cue collection and I do cue repairs daily - it goes on all of it. It is the only wax that you can't remove. You can't take it off with alcohol like other waxes. It's very hard and clear. Works on guns too. Put it right on the metal. Makes it impervious to rust. Go forward without fear. You can even put it on precious documents to protect them. That's pretty strong...


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wax - 06-05-2015, 10:13 PM

Take this info for what ever its worth.
The synthetic pure polymer wax has the highest melting point and it dries the hardest .

Carnauba wax has the highest melting point of the 3 known natural waxes Paraffin , bees wax, and carnauba is about 171 f
The pure polymer has a much higher melting point.
It smells allot better but it takes longer to dry.

I tried to look up the USDS sheet for the renaissance wax but couldn't find it.
I don't know what the melting point is on Renaissance wax.... ?????


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wax - 06-05-2015, 10:59 PM

Well Mike,

I can tell you that it won't wash off your hands - even with ripping hot water! I'd say it's pretty high. I don't question it much. I just know that I have tested many over the years. This is the one that works best and lasts longer. It just works.


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wax - 06-05-2015, 11:01 PM

No MSDS sheet - probably because it's reverse engineering from the aliens...


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Take this info for what ever its worth.
The synthetic pure polymer wax has the highest melting point and it dries the hardest .

Carnauba wax has the highest melting point of the 3 known natural waxes Paraffin , bees wax, and carnauba is about 171 f
The pure polymer has a much higher melting point.
It smells allot better but it takes longer to dry.

I tried to look up the USDS sheet for the renaissance wax but couldn't find it.
I don't know what the melting point is on Renaissance wax.... ?????
Actually, there are many kinds of waxes. Carnauba just being the hardest of the natural waxes. By the way, carnauba wax is not at natural wax but is a petroleum distillate.

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06-06-2015, 04:44 PM

I've been using Renaissance for quite some time now but have never tried it on cues, although I have thought about it a number of times. I use it mainly on my guns and on some seldom used equipment. I can say that it really protects metal from rusting and finger smudges. A very light coat and then rubbed in and then rubbed off leaves a very light film that lasts and lasts. I have a number of guns, in a safe in my back shop without heat nor air. I haven't cleaned nor picked them up in a couple of years and there is no rust on them. The stuff certainly is not cheap but a little bit goes a long way.

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06-08-2015, 02:00 AM

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Thanks Kim, but is anyone using the " Renaissance " brand ?
Pathman introduced me to Bill Schick years ago when we were dabbling with cue repair and he gave me the process he uses on every new shaft and shaft that he reconditioned. It involved his sealer formula followed by treatment with renaissance wax.

If you're looking for a name who uses it, I can't think of many bigger than his.
  
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wax - 06-08-2015, 06:28 PM

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Actually, there are many kinds of waxes. Carnauba just being the hardest of the natural waxes. By the way, carnauba wax is not at natural wax but is a petroleum distillate.

Dick
HI Dick.
Are you 100% positive ?

I did allot of reading or research on different waxes .

This what my research came up with .
http://www.gliptone.com/faq.htm


Carnauba is a natural wax, extracted from a palm tree that grows exclusively in Brazil. It has the highest melting point of any natural wax on the planet (198f). Due to its limited supply, Carnauba products tend to cost considerably more than synthetic substitutes. Not only does Gliptone use the finest grade of carnauba available (#1 yellow). Gliptone's tradition of quality is based on using the finest quality ingredients, including the highest percentage of Carnauba (as compared to competitive products). A Carnauba based car wax tends to protect your paint finish with a clear film of durable protection. Eventually this film wears away, however, with Gliptone's high percentage of Carnauba in all of our Carnauba wax products, its durability surpasses other natural wax products. Carnauba wax is recommended for show cars, hot rods, antiques, and collectibles of all types, whose owners tend to wax frequently, in order to build added depth of gloss while ensuring premium protection.


Technical characteristics[edit]
INCI name is Copernicia cerifera (carnauba) wax
E Number is E903.
Melting point: 82–86 C (180–187 F), among the highest of natural waxes, higher than beeswax, 62-64C.
Relative density is about 0.97
It is among the hardest of natural waxes.
It is practically insoluble in water, soluble on heating in ethyl acetate and in xylene, and practically insoluble in ethyl alcohol.


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