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07-17-2019, 09:12 AM

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I remember my sister had a cue given to her. It had a screw on tip and an unraveling wrap. The shaft was ramin, and the rest of the cue was littered with plastic dots. I took it to the pool hall and shot better than I ever had before. That's when I realized that as crappy as this cue was, it was simply better than a random house cue in terms of weight distribution, straightness, and most importantly, the tip, screwy as it was. Getting my own cue would be the path forward.

I bought my first cue on a trip to Manhattan at V. Loria & Sons. I tried out a dozen and found that a 20 oz, Mali T-6 was to my liking. I remember thinking that I was a bit nutz to be spending so much money for a pool stick.

I do wish I had that cue back.


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07-17-2019, 02:02 PM

My first good pool cue.....1968 Joss....got it in 1978

Took me awhile...duh...to realize I was never going to play my game on a pool table with
13 mm tips....I’d had some good days...but basically I felt I was entering a casino when
I played 9-ball.

A friend gave me a Joss with a cracked ivory ferrule...wouldn’t take any money for it...
...when I got to Detroit, I took the cue to Al Safron....told him to cut the ferrule right off...
....my snooker cues are 57 inches...won’t mind that length for pool.
...I hate ivory ferrules except to break with...Al says then I’will introduce you to over-drilled
ferrules....you get a better hit....as an afterthought, I told him to take it down to 12mm...

When I took it to a pool hall....it was like somebody had turned the lights on...
...I could now spin on a pool table like I could spin on a snooker table...

I started making 9-ball games with players I wanted no part of before this....
...within a week, I was winning giving the 8-ball....
...within three weeks, they were turning down the 7-ball...
...Al Safron had handed me a whole new universe...may he rest in peace
...within six months, I was glaring at one-pocket players

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...who do you think I am...Ansel Adams?


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07-17-2019, 02:11 PM

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PT109,you must be the luckiest stiff in the world

do you still sport that cue around or did you sell
it like I usually do?


I might need 8 to 3 and the snap if you come to Dallas

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07-17-2019, 02:24 PM

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PT109,you must be the luckiest stiff in the world

do you still sport that cue around or did you sell
it like I usually do?


I might need 8 to 3 and the snap if you come to Dallas

Dean
Still got the Joss, Dean....and still straight with the original shaft....
...Paul Mottey refinished it for me in the middle 90s....like a dummy, I told him to change
the Cortland to black with white flecks....I miss that original linen.

Danny Janes, after watching a 9-ball match, told me he didn’t have a ‘68 in his collection...
...asked me what I wanted for it...I told him...”Half an hour in your shop with an empty truck.”
...he kinda liked the fact that I liked it that much.


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07-17-2019, 04:17 PM

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My first good pool cue.....1968 Joss....got it in 1978

Took me awhile...duh...to realize I was never going to play my game on a pool table with
13 mm tips....I’d had some good days...but basically I felt I was entering a casino when
I played 9-ball.

A friend gave me a Joss with a cracked ivory ferrule...wouldn’t take any money for it...
...when I got to Detroit, I took the cue to Al Safron....told him to cut the ferrule right off...
....my snooker cues are 57 inches...won’t mind that length for pool.
...I hate ivory ferrules except to break with...Al says then I’will introduce you to over-drilled
ferrules....you get a better hit....as an afterthought, I told him to take it down to 12mm...

When I took it to a pool hall....it was like somebody had turned the lights on...
...I could now spin on a pool table like I could spin on a snooker table...

I started making 9-ball games with players I wanted no part of before this....
...within a week, I was winning giving the 8-ball....
...within three weeks, they were turning down the 7-ball...
...Al Safron had handed me a whole new universe...may he rest in peace
...within six months, I was glaring at one-pocket players

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It’s the one on the right...big letter Joss...doesn’t show in the pic...
...who do you think I am...Ansel Adams?
Did they glare *back* at you? I've heard 1 hole players can be pretty nasty people.

I mean... I'm just sayin'...

And no... if you were Ansel Adams, the photo would be in black and white... duh.


I *heard* you play pretty sporty... but then, when you pay people to say that kinda stuff, word will get out, right? Rigghtttttttttttt.




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07-17-2019, 06:18 PM

My first real cue was a custom built by Tex Zimmerman in San Francisco. He and Earl Whitehead had the Brunswick dealership.

Birdseye maple butt, two shafts with buckhorn ferrules, ivory joint and butt cap and brown leather wrap. I wish now I had kept it. $65, 1965.


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07-18-2019, 05:53 AM

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My first real cue was a custom built by Tex Zimmerman in San Francisco. He and Earl Whitehead had the Brunswick dealership.

Birdseye maple butt, two shafts with buckhorn ferrules, ivory joint and butt cap and brown leather wrap. I wish now I had kept it. $65, 1965.
You're a physics maven., Bob... whip up a photo from memory! Sounds gorgeous!





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07-19-2019, 06:39 AM

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If by good, you mean shoots lights out, I'll let you know when I find it.

My first cue ever is a good cue, I reckon. '93 Schon SL14.
I say I reckon as it's still a virgin. Stumbled on an eight point Buss before the Schon ever hit a ball.

But weren't no rich kid. It was a 60th birthday present to myself.
It was in 1964 when I bought a two piece cue at Oshman’s Sporting Goods in Houston. I was a sophomore in high school living in Crockett Texas. After I bought the cue I hitchhiked from Houston back to Crockett with cue in hand. No case. It’s about 120 miles from Houston. It cost me about $12 It was unwrapped so I wrapped it myself with some silk thread I bought at a fabric shop.


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07-19-2019, 07:35 AM

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It was in 1964 when I bought a two piece cue at Oshman’s Sporting Goods in Houston. I was a sophomore in high school living in Crockett Texas. After I bought the cue I hitchhiked from Houston back to Crockett with cue in hand. No case. It’s about 120 miles from Houston. It cost me about $12 It was unwrapped so I wrapped it myself with some silk thread I bought at a fabric shop.
Bet it doesn't feel like 55 years ago...




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07-19-2019, 07:58 AM

My first cue story? It all started with a kid in school who kept bragging about how good he was. He said his dad just bought a new table and cues, claimed his dad was the greatest.

Remembering how my Grandad taught me that it was not the cue, it was the person holding the cue, I asked the kid if we could play. He laughed and told me that I didn’t even own a cue so I told him I could beat him with a broomstick. I went home, put a piece of leather on an old broomstick, proceeded to his house and whooped him soundly. His dad walks in, looks at my cue and laughs. I asked if he had any money, he brings in a jar of change, I proceed to take it all, jar included.

In walks his wife, “where’s the change jar?”

I tried to slowly slither out the back door when she figured out what was going on. In a scared rush to leave, I forgot the cue that never lost a game. I jumped on my motorcycle, pushed it to its limit of 145 mph, looked behind me and there she was, riding that broomstick and gaining on me.


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My first cue story? It all started with a kid in school who kept bragging about how good he was. He said his dad just bought a new table and cues, claimed his dad was the greatest.

Remembering how my Grandad taught me that it was not the cue, it was the person holding the cue, I asked the kid if we could play. He laughed and told me that I didn’t even own a cue so I told him I could beat him with a broomstick. I went home, put a piece of leather on an old broomstick, proceeded to his house and whooped him soundly. His dad walks in, looks at my cue and laughs. I asked if he had any money, he brings in a jar of change, I proceed to take it all, jar included.

In walks his wife, “where’s the change jar?”

I tried to slowly slither out the back door when she figured out what was going on. In a scared rush to leave, I forgot the cue that never lost a game. I jumped on my motorcycle, pushed it to its limit of 145 mph, looked behind me and there she was, riding that broomstick and gaining on me.

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07-19-2019, 09:21 AM

First "good" cue is a Schon SL 5 which I still own and would sell but don't want to deal with the drama I've seen too many times on this forum. For the last few years I've been using an Osage Orange Woodworth. Nothing wrong with the Schon but the Woodworth is my favorite now.
  
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1990 j hook joss. Won it off a local playing 9 ball.

A guy I busted way back when wanted to sell me his Joss ( reallllyyyy cheap ) so he could keep playing. I told him to come back with some $$$. I probably should've taken the Joss. I don't remember if it was an east or a west.




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07-19-2019, 12:53 PM

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