The Rise and Fall of the Filipino Pool Craze

ctyhntr

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I saw this on facebook, and no mention on AZ.

http://www.vice.com/read/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-filipino-pool-craze

The Rise and Fall of the Filipino Pool Craze
By Sean Williams
January 26, 2016

Dennis Orcollo's pool career began when he was eight and his grandfather brought home a beat-up table. They lived in a coastal village on the Philippine island of Mindanao. Years before, Orcollo's father, a fisherman, was lost at sea in a storm. Soon the boy was spending entire nights on the table, and at age 16, he left home for a gold mining town called Campostela, where he hustled pool. Within days no-one would play the prodigious teen, and so he left for the capital, Manila, with a handful of dollars and nowhere to sleep. It was the mid 1990s and Orcollo had picked a good time: Pool had been a national sport since the Second World War. It was about to become lucrative too.

Today, you can find pool halls in Manila's restaurants, its schools, and even its slums, where some streets are ankle-deep in excrement and industrial slime. Each table is a refuge from horrible squalor—even in the worst neighborhoods, where locals make cash reconstituting leftover food for pennies, people shoot pool for three Filipino pesos (seven cents) a rack.

Some tables are operated by local strongmen who've salvaged them from scrap. Others, in upscale bars and casinos, are islands of shining green baize amid fogs of cigarette smoke. The dream of countless young sharks, when Orcollo arrived in town, was to work their way from the slums to the halls to the "money games," which were watched by hundreds and could earn hustlers thousands of dollars. By 2004, Orcollo was taking up to $5,000 a game from some of pool's biggest names, all over Manila.

"I started so small then I grew so much," said Orcollo, who is now known as pool's "Money Game King" and lives in Quezon City. "There's so much joy because I didn't really expect to do what I do for a career."

Pool has been popular in the Philippines since before World War II, after the country had been sold by Spain to the US in 1898. Its golden period wouldn't be until 1999, when Filipino Efren Reyes beat Taiwan's Chang Hao-Ping at the World Pool Association (WPA) Nine-Ball Championships in Cardiff, Wales. It was the sport's first televised final and Reyes, nicknamed Bata—"kid" in Tagalog—oozed laid-back charisma and came with a backstory of having worked his way up from a youth spent sleeping rough on pool tables.

Soon, pool in the Philippines got a cash infusion. Sponsors came onboard. Pool halls were renovated. Even the government pumped money into the game, backing players abroad and putting on tournaments at home. The country hosted two of the next eight WPA Nine-Ball Championships, and in 2008 the organization held its first-ever World Ten-Ball Champs in Manila, as the Nine-Ball tournament took a two-year hiatus due to the global economic crisis.

But despite a $400,000 purse, the biggest Filipino stars, including Reyes and Orcollo, didn't show. Why not?

The short answer: greed. Each player had his own manager, and each manager wanted a bigger slice of the pie. The best way to do that, they figured, was to set up independent tournaments where their own players would be the star turn.

"There was a crab mentality," said Ted Lerner, a Pennsylvania-born pool announcer and author who now lives near Manila. "These guys are starving to death and they can't even play in their own backyard."

In most cases, competing in the Ten-Ball Championships would bring players more wealth and prestige. So why did so many let their managers keep them away? "Dennis's manager helped him out from the beginning when he was a nobody," Lerner said. "There's this sense of what Filipinos call utang na loob, a debt of gratitude. That gratitude culture is stronger than money."

The WPA Ten-Ball Championships were held in the Philippines in 2009 and 2011. But the country's biggest stars still stayed away. Its Nine-Ball cousin returned to Dohar, Qatar in 2010. But despite Francisco "Django" Bustamante's victory that year, Filipino stars weren't playing each other in the big games.

The money dried up. The sponsors and the government stopped financing as many games. The best players—Orcollo included—remained on the international circuit but spent less time competing at home. Kids in the slums still dreamt of stardom. But the top layer of Filipino pool had been shaved right off. Even the money games faded away. Promising young players took their talents elsewhere and are teaching pool in the US and other wealthy nations.

A lot of them want to be the next Orcollo. But the chances he took to be a global star have faded. "There are thousands of amazing players but no opportunity," said Lerner. "There's no system for them to get involved." Pool in the Philippines permeates every level of society. But its pinups have packed their bags.
 
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BasementDweller

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Ah -- please tell me there's more to this article. It started out so well and then just ended but not before the author could imply (without much proof) that the players screwed everything up.

Strange ending to say the least.
 

ctyhntr

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I thought I had cut and pasted everything, but missed the last paragraph or two. Now fixed.

Ah -- please tell me there's more to this article. It started out so well and then just ended but not before the author could imply (without much proof) that the players screwed everything up.

Strange ending to say the least.
 

warriorpoet62

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where some streets are ankle-deep in excrement and industrial slime

I have been married to a Filipina for 30 years and, during that time, I have traveled extensively throughout the country. I can say without hesitation that I have never been in a neighborhood where there is excrement ankle deep in the street.

I have a feeling the only excrement associated with the Philippines is this article. Clearly, we're faced with another half-ass author want to be who makes up for a severe lack of talent with gross sensationalism and an over-indulgent imagination.
 

boogeyman

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I have been married to a Filipina for 30 years and, during that time, I have traveled extensively throughout the country. I can say without hesitation that I have never been in a neighborhood where there is excrement ankle deep in the street.

I have a feeling the only excrement associated with the Philippines is this article. Clearly, we're faced with another half-ass author want to be who makes up for a severe lack of talent with gross sensationalism and an over-indulgent imagination.

Well said.
 

JoeyInCali

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I have been married to a Filipina for 30 years and, during that time, I have traveled extensively throughout the country. I can say without hesitation that I have never been in a neighborhood where there is excrement ankle deep in the street.

I have a feeling the only excrement associated with the Philippines is this article. Clearly, we're faced with another half-ass author want to be who makes up for a severe lack of talent with gross sensationalism and an over-indulgent imagination.

The writer is full of sh!#.
 

JoeyA

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I wonder if this is the rapero/rapper from Manila, called Sean Williams?

JoeyA
 

jay helfert

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I can tell you from personal experience that there are still hundreds if not thousands of pool players who are still active in the Philippines. The money game culture is alive and well here, with games for 10,000P ($225) or more a common occurrence. They call them Pool Fights for a good reason. The place will be packed with spectators for one of these money games and most everyone is side betting on each game! There is usually a few minutes delay between games for all the bets to be made. I find it fascinating to watch. I've literally seen dozens of very good players engage in money games here that have not and probably never will travel to the USA.
 

JB Cases

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I think the "sleazy" nature of the article is because it was written for Vice. I too have been to the Philippines and never seen that level of nastiness. While there are certainly a lot of people in Manila for example the city was relatively free of trash the two times I was there.
 

Pangit

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I wonder if this is the rapero/rapper from Manila, called Sean Williams?

JoeyA


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1arNfQi0X0
 

Daryle

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I enjoy playing the money games in PI. Never been in an excrement filled neighbourhood but you could loose a car in some of the potholes in Angeles, Subic and Manila where I have played. Although some pool halls and tables are basic, the talent on the tables is great! Personally the article speaks to me about why so many Filipinos have to leave home due to lack of opportunity.


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9Ball_JJ

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I actually wrote the author and linked him to this discussion. Part of his response was: "I'm similarly a keen pool player - from Britain myself - and I have a pretty good knowledge of the sport. But I certainly didn't bridge any logic with this piece, and only used first-hand reportage when describing what I saw in Manila. There is lots of excrement in the streets. In fact, entire rivers through some of the poorer areas which cause a large number of medical epidemics. So I can 100% counter that point."

I know there's a lot of poverty in that country, but the "rivers" seem very hard to believe.
 

poolhustler

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I have been married to a Filipina for 30 years and, during that time, I have traveled extensively throughout the country. I can say without hesitation that I have never been in a neighborhood where there is excrement ankle deep in the street.

I have a feeling the only excrement associated with the Philippines is this article. Clearly, we're faced with another half-ass author want to be who makes up for a severe lack of talent with gross sensationalism and an over-indulgent imagination.

I have to agree..........
 

Black-Balled

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Seems to me the infighting of the managers would have been more likely to stunt pool in the PI.

The building of 'stables' that would limit what events their players were allowed to compete in may have been well intentioned, but pool- even in PI, obviously- isn't big enough to support itself as it is, much less a watered down version.

Then you have the murder of one of the biggest opponents to the direction pool was headed, Edwin Reyes...and the shooting of the other cuemaker too (forgive me for forgetting his name at the moment).

death has a way of making people keep their thoughts to themselves. It also is guaranteed to reduce support from outsiders.
 

jasonlaus

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I actually wrote the author and linked him to this discussion. Part of his response was: "I'm similarly a keen pool player - from Britain myself - and I have a pretty good knowledge of the sport. But I certainly didn't bridge any logic with this piece, and only used first-hand reportage when describing what I saw in Manila. There is lots of excrement in the streets. In fact, entire rivers through some of the poorer areas which cause a large number of medical epidemics. So I can 100% counter that point."

I know there's a lot of poverty in that country, but the "rivers" seem very hard to believe.

I've never shit a river:eek:
 

Cameron Smith

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I have a question for for those of you who have watched challenge matches in the Philippines. I've seen in numerous matches posted on youtube some who seems to be designated to remove balls from pockets every time a ball drops. Any reason for this? Other than ensuring the pockets don't fill up? I've also seen quite often people other players pointing to or picking stuff off the table during play.

I love watching those videos, can't get enough of them. It's such a different atmosphere than we experience in North America. It also blows my mind to see players I've never heard of playing even with current top players.
 

teedotaj

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I have a question for for those of you who have watched challenge matches in the Philippines. I've seen in numerous matches posted on youtube some who seems to be designated to remove balls from pockets every time a ball drops. Any reason for this? Other than ensuring the pockets don't fill up? I've also seen quite often people other players pointing to or picking stuff off the table during play.

They use spotters all the time to do stuff like that and racking the balls. Probably a carry over from rotation where you have to remove the balls to keep count of the score. Also for the tip lol
 

Daryle

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They use spotters all the time to do stuff like that and racking the balls. Probably a carry over from rotation where you have to remove the balls to keep count of the score. Also for the tip lol


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