New Gold Crown VI

JolietJames

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I have a GC3 with GC4 top. Plays as well as my GC2.
I prefer their play due to the fact that they're geometrically correct.
However,
Diamond has a better ball return.
I prefer diamonds pockets even over the flat pockets on my GC4.
I prefer the diamondwood or whatever it's called because it does not scratch or dent like my GC rails.

I have had no problem with any of my GC cushions going bad -I was referring to previous posters who claimed bad rubber on the GCs. My point was I'd prefer to need to swap rubber more often if the trade off is having a table that rebounds the balls correctly.
 
AuntyDan

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lumberman said:
Try this link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2XqfmMH7GQ
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Thanks lumberman. The opening shot of that video shows they had a mix of GC IV, V and the (presumed) VI in the same tournament. It would be great if anyone is in contact with any of the pros playing there to get their opinion of the 3 generations side by side. (Looking at you Mr. Helfert!)

The presumed GC VI looks a bit odd, possible due to the video resolution. The finish the rails and skirts appear to be matt. Is it still a plastic laminate on top of the rails, or maybe a textured metal coating? They also look a bit wider and more heavily curved than previous generations, although it may be the removal of the metal edge pieces making it look wider than it is.

The rest of the changes to the corners and legs don't look especially attractive to me compared to the V. Angling the legs outward makes it look like some cheap fold-up portable table.

My personal biggest bug bear on the GC since they moved to flush pockets in the IV is how badly the metal corner castings fit with both the rails and the pocket liners. I've seen them with quarter-inch gaps from the factory, let alone if you want to extend the rails to tighten the pockets. The video resolution is not good enough to see if they have addressed this at all in the VI, nor how the pockets are cut.

We'll have to wait for the experts to get their hands on one to asses if the build quality, assembly, frame, pocket setup and leveling are better or worse than the V.
 
jay helfert

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AuntyDan said:
Thanks lumberman. The opening shot of that video shows they had a mix of GC IV, V and the (presumed) VI in the same tournament. It would be great if anyone is in contact with any of the pros playing there to get their opinion of the 3 generations side by side. (Looking at you Mr. Helfert!)

The presumed GC VI looks a bit odd, possible due to the video resolution. The finish the rails and skirts appear to be matt. Is it still a plastic laminate on top of the rails, or maybe a textured metal coating? They also look a bit wider and more heavily curved than previous generations, although it may be the removal of the metal edge pieces making it look wider than it is.

The rest of the changes to the corners and legs don't look especially attractive to me compared to the V. Angling the legs outward makes it look like some cheap fold-up portable table.

My personal biggest bug bear on the GC since they moved to flush pockets in the IV is how badly the metal corner castings fit with both the rails and the pocket liners. I've seen them with quarter-inch gaps from the factory, let alone if you want to extend the rails to tighten the pockets. The video resolution is not good enough to see if they have addressed this at all in the VI, nor how the pockets are cut.

We'll have to wait for the experts to get their hands on one to asses if the build quality, assembly, frame, pocket setup and leveling are better or worse than the V.
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My personal favorite has to be the GCV that I had for a while (shouldn't have sold it). After that I prefer the older GC's (I and II). I had them in two of my poolrooms and they played great and never wore out after years of constant play.
 
Mr. Bond

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Will be conducting an interview with Brunswick to specifically discuss the GC VI....stay tuned
 
iusedtoberich

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It looks like the pocket metal is still proud of the surface, at least from this picture. You can also see a groove type detail going around the perimeter of the table. I can't quite make out if its a metal piece or part of the wood.

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Johnnybgood

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perfectpocketz said:
Brunswick GC tables are the best made and playing table today.....none other come close.

The Brunswick super speed cushions have not gone bad in yrs....I have not seen a set of Brunswick cushions go bad...and I do rails every week with them.

The Diamond black cushion goes bad but no one says anything about that.....I just changed 5 sets that had crumbled.

Diamond tables are plywood....how on earth could that be made better....than a hardwood blocked.



There's no better made table than a GC 5.........Brunswick has not sent me a GC 6 yet....but I'm looking to have one sent to me so we can set it up at my house and judge the table.

I don't think there's was any table better than the GC5......and not because I had a lot of my design in the table.....play on one set up correctly and you'll see for yourself.



Mark Gregory
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About time someone speaks reality. Most haven’t even played a GC V. Not many around. It’s a gorgeous table that played better than it looks. Someone please sell me one. I have the cash.

The diamond is ugly. Boring. Springy and not exactly what I would call a fun table to play. But, it is half the price and right there is where the argument stops. So for All room owners and personal owners of Diamonds that is the motivation. It certainly isn’t the play.

God invented choice. I choose the best table I can buy for my money. The GC V is the best looking and best playing table on the planet. All others are sacrifices.


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pt109

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iusedtoberich said:
It looks like the pocket metal is still proud of the surface, at least from this picture. You can also see a groove type detail going around the perimeter of the table. I can't quite make out if its a metal piece or part of the wood.

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What I’m seeing here is just another pocket that I gotta protect my cue from....
...and gotta jack slightly to get my thumb under the cue.

On a Diamond, I can stroke with a level cue any place on the table.
 
Maxx

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One piece slate would be great, but a lot of people (like me) have their table in the basement.
 
jay helfert

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iusedtoberich said:
Mr Helfert, will you eat your hat? :grin-square::grin-square::grin-square::grin-square:
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Don't worry, it will be knocked off soon! :wink:
P.S. They've made copies of our hundred dollar bills that are currently in circulation and are virtually undetectable. Most enter the open market through Macau casinos. There is an estimated 3-500 million worth of these bills circulating now! No one (not even our secret service) can do anything about them and they are accepted the same as the ones we make here. They spend just like them too! :cool:
They've also been making copies of our old silver dollars for many years now that look perfect, except they aren't made of silver. You will find people trying to sell them on the street all over Southeast Asia. They usually ask for $5 per silver dollar, a good deal if they were correct and not counterfeit.
 
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Mr. Bond

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jalapus logan said:
The design is unispired, imo. Not much "reimagining" if you ask me.
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xianmacx said:
I agree.

Mid century modern is very popular right now. They could have taken some chances are really made a beautiful table.
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garczar said:
I wish they'd use GC5 guts and bring back the Centennial and the Anniversary style. Give people the choice of modern/current or retro. Never happen but a modern old-school looking table would sell based on what i read here.
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Don't know if you recall the occasion but Brunswick held a design contest for the new GC6 back in 2014. We interviewed the winner of the contest, Colin Tury.

Unless Brunswick backed off of their previous plan of using the winning design, then it wasn't even Brunswick that designed it, it was Colin alone.

That being said, I do recall Colin's mock-up looking a little bit more space-aged, almost sr71 blackbird-ish, so it's also possible that Brunswick basically tweeked it as they saw fit.

Here's the episode with Mr. Tury:
http://www.americanbilliardradio.com/listen/2014/10/16/new-table-new-blood
 
Cardigan Kid

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Johnnybgood said:
About time someone speaks reality. Most haven’t even played a GC V. Not many around. It’s a gorgeous table that played better than it looks. Someone please sell me one. I have the cash.

The diamond is ugly. Boring. Springy and not exactly what I would call a fun table to play. But, it is half the price and right there is where the argument stops. So for All room owners and personal owners of Diamonds that is the motivation. It certainly isn’t the play.

God invented choice. I choose the best table I can buy for my money. The GC V is the best looking and best playing table on the planet. All others are sacrifices.


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I always felt diamond designed their table as a tournament table and only for tournaments.
They weren't going for art esthetics or home decor ratings.
But the performance is stellar. And their standard pocket size, rubber performance is what pool should have always just agreed on as a standard to follow into the future.

Brunswick doesn't appear to have any desire to go into tournament settings. But if they do, the table should be able to be standardized and set up/break down quick without losing any quality in performance.

I don't see this gold crown doing that at all.
 
Cardigan Kid

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Mr. Bond said:
Will be conducting an interview with Brunswick to specifically discuss the GC VI....stay tuned
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Your interviews are great and I enjoy the show. I'll be looking forward to the Brunswick interview.

In the most professional way you can think of, can you get a reason why Brunswick decided to step away from the industry and allowed other companies (Diamond, Rasson) to come in and plant a flag where Brunswick used to reign supreme?

If money/dying industry was the issue, that's a logical reason, but doesn't explain the 2014 table design contest and this latest step of a new gold crown reveal. All of this to get back into a "dying industry"?

My guess is that there is a bigger global market for recreational pool that their internal analytics have shown. If so, this is a good sign for pool.
 
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