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Possible fake Huebler on ebay - 02-28-2011, 07:46 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-HUEBLER-SNEA...item3365729d0f

Here is a picture of the shaft, and butt. Doesn't look like any Huebler that I've seen.

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02-28-2011, 07:51 AM

For comparison, here a huebler sneaky (with collar).

http://cgi.ebay.com/Huebler-SNEAKY-P...item230e9c08c9


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02-28-2011, 09:16 AM

A good friend of mine had a cue exactly like this back in 95-96. I can't say if he bought it new or not, but it was the exact same style. I do not thik this is a fake.


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02-28-2011, 09:31 AM

Unless there is a better picture of the shaft insert, it looks like a generic import sneaky Pete, than a Huebler that I've come across. Hate to see someone get ripped off.


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02-28-2011, 09:36 AM

I used to have a Huebler sneaky that looked like that cue.
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02-28-2011, 11:24 AM

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http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-HUEBLER-SNEA...item3365729d0f

Here is a picture of the shaft, and butt. Doesn't look like any Huebler that I've seen.

http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/...0,0,0&format=0


My Huebler sneaky has the same clear stick on label only it is a darker stain and it is harder to see . Bought it late 80's at Bowling and Billiards , Ross Ave. in Dallas .

Two of the points line up , the other two don't , never thought about it until i started reading the forums . It has the nylon insert that Huebler used . Maybe he had a helper the day mine was made
  
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02-28-2011, 02:50 PM

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http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-HUEBLER-SNEA...item3365729d0f

Here is a picture of the shaft, and butt. Doesn't look like any Huebler that I've seen.

http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/...0,0,0&format=0


I have never seen a Heubler Sneaky Pete with a Bumper like, in fact I have never seen a Heubler cue with a bumper like that. I was a dealer for Paul from 2002 until he closed down for good, I use to sell a large number of his Sneaky Pete cues in fact Paul use to sign them for me. Paul always used a Brown Bumper that was a Push in style and also secured with an allen head screw.

The butt decal on the cue looks right though so maybe they did use some like the bumper on the cue pictured in the ebay thread. To tell for certain it would be necessary to have the bumper removed so that the weight bolt can be seen. Heubler cues had a steel collar insert that reinforced the bottom of the butt of the cue from the inside, these inserts had center hole drilled through them and the cues weight bolt held them in place. Paul machined all these parts including the weight bolts and the bumpers in his shop.

Here are some photo's of the Butt insert, weight bolt, Bumper screw, and the bumper.

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Is the cue a counter fit cue, I can't say for certain unless I can get a photo of the bottom of the cue with the bumper removed. It is possible that for some reason the bumper on the eBay cue was replaced for some reason, and I think that is the most likely answer to this question, I mean why would anyone want to counter fit a Heubler sneaky pete?

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02-28-2011, 03:25 PM

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I have never seen a Heubler Sneaky Pete with a Bumper like, in fact I have never seen a Heubler cue with a bumper like that. I was a dealer for Paul from 2002 until he closed down for good, I use to sell a large number of his Sneaky Pete cues in fact Paul use to sign them for me. Paul always used a Brown Bumper that was a Push in style and also secured with an allen head screw.

The butt decal on the cue looks right though so maybe they did use some like the bumper on the cue pictured in the ebay thread. To tell for certain it would be necessary to have the bumper removed so that the weight bolt can be seen. Heubler cues had a steel collar insert that reinforced the bottom of the butt of the cue from the inside, these inserts had center hole drilled through them and the cues weight bolt held them in place. Paul machined all these parts including the weight bolts and the bumpers in his shop.

Here are some photo's of the Butt insert, weight bolt, Bumper screw, and the bumper.

Attachment 172984

Attachment 172985


Is the cue a counter fit cue, I can't say for certain unless I can get a photo of the bottom of the cue with the bumper removed. It is possible that for some reason the bumper on the eBay cue was replaced for some reason, and I think that is the most likely answer to this question, I mean why would anyone want to counter fit a Heubler sneaky pete?

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I agree. Nothing against Huebler, Paul and his crew made a good cue, but it's just not the kind of thing that someone would counterfeit. It would be like counterfeiting nickels, more trouble than it's worth.


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02-28-2011, 03:30 PM

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I agree. Nothing against Huebler, Paul and his crew made a good cue, but it's just not the kind of thing that someone would counterfeit. It would be like counterfeiting nickels, more trouble than it's worth.
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02-28-2011, 03:45 PM

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I agree. Nothing against Huebler, Paul and his crew made a good cue, but it's just not the kind of thing that someone would counterfeit. It would be like counterfeiting nickels, more trouble than it's worth.
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02-28-2011, 04:12 PM

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I have never seen a Heubler Sneaky Pete with a Bumper like, in fact I have never seen a Heubler cue with a bumper like that. I was a dealer for Paul from 2002 until he closed down for good, I use to sell a large number of his Sneaky Pete cues in fact Paul use to sign them for me. Paul always used a Brown Bumper that was a Push in style and also secured with an allen head screw.

The butt decal on the cue looks right though so maybe they did use some like the bumper on the cue pictured in the ebay thread. To tell for certain it would be necessary to have the bumper removed so that the weight bolt can be seen. Heubler cues had a steel collar insert that reinforced the bottom of the butt of the cue from the inside, these inserts had center hole drilled through them and the cues weight bolt held them in place. Paul machined all these parts including the weight bolts and the bumpers in his shop.

Here are some photo's of the Butt insert, weight bolt, Bumper screw, and the bumper.

Attachment 172984

Attachment 172985


Is the cue a counter fit cue, I can't say for certain unless I can get a photo of the bottom of the cue with the bumper removed. It is possible that for some reason the bumper on the eBay cue was replaced for some reason, and I think that is the most likely answer to this question, I mean why would anyone want to counter fit a Heubler sneaky pete?

JIMO



Mine is like that , the set screw i think is the star type not allen type , it holds the black bumper but the weight bolt is like the one in your picture , it is from about 89 .The bumper has a smaller push in cap that you can remove to access the set screw .
  
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02-28-2011, 05:19 PM

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02-28-2011, 05:29 PM

I don't know about the odd rubber bumpers, but Huebler made sneaky pete's with and without collars...just like Meucci and a few others.

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02-28-2011, 05:37 PM

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I don't know about the odd rubber bumpers, but Huebler made sneaky pete's with and without collars...just like Meucci and a few others.

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I've never seen one with that bumper but everything else looks like a huebler. I've got one of them with joint collars and one without.
  
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02-28-2011, 07:28 PM

I have a Huebler sneaky that looks just like this one including the bumper and name. I bought in about 1990. Nice cue.
  
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