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Tighter pockets - 08-29-2016, 11:38 AM

I just got a Gold Crown 3 AK and would like to have tighter pockets. I am awear of the shim to get tighter pockets but, some times the shimming looks very obvious. So do they sell oversized bumpers to allow trimming to get tighter pockets? I would like to have 4 or 4 1/4" pockets.
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08-29-2016, 01:56 PM

The proper way to tighten pockets is to have the subrails extended. Mark Gregory would be the man to contact for this work and he is located in GA so not far from you. He posts here under PerfectPocketz and I think he has a website by that same name. Do a search on here for Mark Gregory and you will see lots of his work!

Another option here in FL is Mike House who posts here under his name. However, he currently has shoulder issues and may not be able to do the work for quite some time. He worked on my table and did a fantastic job.

You may want to re-think the 4" or 4 1/4" pockets. Pro-cut pockets at 4 1/2" are plenty fine!
  
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08-29-2016, 02:59 PM

You'll be making a mistake to make the pockets that small. You'll start hanging balls left and right, and nobody will want to play on your table with you. Keep them at 4.5". That's what the pros play on.

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08-29-2016, 03:03 PM

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You'll be making a mistake to make the pockets that small. You'll start hanging balls left and right, and nobody will want to play on your table with you. Keep them at 4.5". That's what the pros play on.

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Take it from a guy with 4 1/8". Don't go that small. Another vote for properly done 4.5".
  
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08-29-2016, 03:36 PM

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Take it from a guy with 4 1/8". Don't go that small. Another vote for properly done 4.5".
I have 4 1/8 on a 10'er and wouldn't change it for the world. Just make sure whoever does it, cuts the pocket angles so they will take a ball and not spit it out.
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08-29-2016, 03:44 PM

I have 4 1/8" pockets done by Mark Gregory and I love it. My shelves are short. I would talk to Mark, he will help you with your decision based on what the table is mainly used for.
  
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08-29-2016, 07:25 PM

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I just got a Gold Crown 3 AK and would like to have tighter pockets. I am awear of the shim to get tighter pockets but, some times the shimming looks very obvious. So do they sell oversized bumpers to allow trimming to get tighter pockets? I would like to have 4 or 4 1/4" pockets.
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Expect to spend at least $1000 for new cushions and cloth from a good mechanic but it will be well worth it. Shims play terrible, that's a hack job.


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08-29-2016, 07:39 PM

I GOT A NEWS FLASH FOR ALL YOU TRAP POCKET LOVERS

YOU ARE ALLOWED TO HIT A BALL IN DEAD CENTER ON ANY SIZE OF POCKET


...and you'll learn position play much better on bigger pockets


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Take it from a guy with 4 1/8". Don't go that small. Another vote for properly done 4.5".
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08-29-2016, 07:45 PM

My Diamond has 4 3/8' pockets...I achieved this by having Diamond use thicker pocket facings, vice adding shims. Any tighter would have required different subrails and much more $, so...4 3/8' is plenty tight, you gotta hit them mighty pure and it's really hard to shoot past interfering balls. Several tend to get hung up, too, and it can get frustrating sometimes when I'm not hitting them perfect, but I'm happy with the slightly smaller pockets. Then, when I'm on a Diamond with 4 1/2" pockets, it's like a bar box (not really, but you get what I mean ).


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Expect to spend at least $1000 for new cushions and cloth from a good mechanic but it will be well worth it. Shims play terrible, that's a hack job.
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08-29-2016, 07:48 PM

But in all seriousness, the size of your pockets depends on two things, the level you play at now and the level you want to play at. I vote for 4 1/4" pockets.. good for all games. IMHO
  
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08-29-2016, 08:03 PM

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But in all seriousness, the size of your pockets depends on two things, the level you play at now and the level you want to play at. I vote for 4 1/4" pockets.. good for all games. IMHO
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08-30-2016, 07:18 AM

What makes double or even triple shimming a table play bad? Next recover I planned on just putting the largest shims I could find because my gc is stock 5 inch corners. No idea how much mark Gregory cost but I'm sure it's way past my budget lol

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