looking for good LBM

jonpador · Feb 19, 2015

Trying to find a good source for my cue builder. We have bought aegis 2 and ivorene 3&4 but to porous and gets dirty quick. Tried juma and elforin, personally not a fan. Would like to find out where to get the stuff that was on my sugartree it was great, tight weave didn't take chalk. Or something similar, also if possible don't want to be bent over on the price. Thanks any help would be appreciated.

KJ Cues · Feb 20, 2015

If the LBM is clean the porosity is dealt with after installation.
Signed, sealed & delivered.

KJ

JoeyInCali · Feb 20, 2015

Try Schmelke. Get the rod type, not the tube.
More labor but worth it.

Blue Hog ridr · Feb 20, 2015

Hmmmm. None of my ferrules get dirty. Nor any of my shafts either.

But then, I like to think that I chalk properly and wipe any excess off with my hand after.

When you are in the habit of deep drilling a piece of chalk with your shaft standing completely erect, yes, the chalk will get all over a ferrule, and your shaft.

If it is happening to more than one or 2 different ferrule materials, I doubt that it is the material that is causing the problem.

I have 2 retips to do this aft. Both ferrules look like someone painted them blue on purpose, yet none of mine get that way.

Here is a small vid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE1KNOp0g5M

Don't want to be bent over on the price. Don't blame ya one bit. Think of how we feel when we purchase the material in 3 to 6 foot lengths.
It is what it is. It would seem, the better the material, the more expensive it is.

jkan101 · Feb 20, 2015

cue

Another option for yah http://www.cuecomponents.com/pocuerotu.html

jonpador · Feb 20, 2015

JoeyInCali said:
Try Schmelke. Get the rod type, not the tube.
More labor but worth it.

Just bought a foot to try it looks promising.

Blue Hog ridr said:
Hmmmm. None of my ferrules get dirty. Nor any of my shafts either.

But then, I like to think that I chalk properly and wipe any excess off with my hand after.

When you are in the habit of deep drilling a piece of chalk with your shaft standing completely erect, yes, the chalk will get all over a ferrule, and your shaft.

I chalk my cues right and wipe the side every time I chalk but the current ferrule of choice hits nice but seems to attract dirt.(ivoriene 3) from atlas.

jkan101 said:
Another option for yah http://www.cuecomponents.com/pocuerotu.html

That ivorite 3 cue components looks good anyone here try it? Is it porous? How tight is the weave? Does it finish dull or polish up?

dunkelcustomcue · Feb 21, 2015

Just picked up some from Warther. It's super hard and clean. I turned down a piece last night and it sanded smooth and Isn't pourus.

http://www.guitarpartsandmore.com/?nav=products&cat=29

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dunkelcustomcue · Feb 21, 2015

Here's another pic to give you an idea of the color. The pic was taken under super bright LED lights.

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Blue Hog ridr · Feb 21, 2015

I know some LBM can be porous as well. I have some of that stuff. As KJ mentioned, you should be able to clean and seal the ferrule yourself even.

That is, if you like the hit of your current ferrule and would like to keep it on. It would help a bit in the long run.

jonpador · Feb 21, 2015

awsome folks on the forum

Just want to thank everyone for their input. Currently trying out two new sources so im good for now unless Eric Crisp wants to throw me some of that magic stuff he has. Thanks

blokid · Feb 22, 2015

Blue Hog ridr said:
I know some LBM can be porous as well. I have some of that stuff. As KJ mentioned, you should be able to clean and seal the ferrule yourself even.

That is, if you like the hit of your current ferrule and would like to keep it on. It would help a bit in the long run.

How could I seal the ferrule? Let me know the way. Thanks

KJ Cues · Feb 22, 2015

This is a procedure that's done on a lathe. If you don't have a lathe then don't do it.
With the shaft spinning in the lathe, tip-end exposed approx 2-3",
undercut the ferrule dia by .001/.002". Blow any dust off.
While still spinning (now 200+/- RPM), spray a light 'dusting-coat' of CA accelerator on the ferrule.
A folded paper-towel in your R-hand placed underneath the ferrule and the bottle of THIN CA
in your L-hand above the ferrule, apply a thin coat of CA to the spinning ferrule.
It will harden immediately.

Your ferrule is now coated (sealed) but will have a rough, uneven surface.
Block-sand the coated ferrule to mate the size of the shaft. It should polish nicely.

HTHs, KJ

blokid · Feb 22, 2015

KJ Cues said:
This is a procedure that's done on a lathe. If you don't have a lathe then don't do it.
With the shaft spinning in the lathe, tip-end exposed approx 2-3",
undercut the ferrule dia by .001/.002". Blow any dust off.
While still spinning (now 200+/- RPM), spray a light 'dusting-coat' of CA accelerator on the ferrule.
A folded paper-towel in your R-hand placed underneath the ferrule and the bottle of THIN CA
in your L-hand above the ferrule, apply a thin coat of CA to the spinning ferrule.
It will harden immediately.

Your ferrule is now coated (sealed) but will have a rough, uneven surface.
Block-sand the coated ferrule to mate the size of the shaft. It should polish nicely.

HTHs, KJ

Thanks for your input KJ. I'll try.

akaminski · Feb 22, 2015

Random question about CA and accelerator..... Why do all accelerators that I buy say it is not for use with thin CA?!?

I know sometimes it smokes I don't know if that has anything to do with it

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Joe Barringer · Feb 24, 2015

dunkelcustomcue said:
Here's another pic to give you an idea of the color. The pic was taken under super bright LED lights.

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That white stuff, the stuff that Prather, Hightower, Schmelke, the BOZO's, CueComponents and others tout is all 'linen based melamine' (LBM); period. Nothing magic about any of it, nothing ivory like about it - It's all the same stuff, all purchased from the same supplier.

cutter · Feb 24, 2015

Joe Barringer said:
That white stuff, the stuff that Prather, Hightower, Schmelke, the BOZO's, CueComponents and others tout is all 'linen based melamine' (LBM); period. Nothing magic about any of it, nothing ivory like about it - It's all the same stuff, all purchased from the same supplier.

Tap, Tap, Tap maybe we should call it Iowa Ivory.

Think I have a few inches
left of the old Spaulding stuff. I can't tell much of any difference from the now defunct
Spaulding to the new stuff.

dunkelcustomcue · Feb 24, 2015

All I can tell you is When I compared the stuff Warther is selling to my old stock that I got from Atlas it wasn't as porous and cleaned up easier.

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jonpador · Feb 24, 2015

Joe Barringer said:
That white stuff, the stuff that Prather, Hightower, Schmelke, the BOZO's, CueComponents and others tout is all 'linen based melamine' (LBM); period. Nothing magic about any of it, nothing ivory like about it - It's all the same stuff, all purchased from the same supplier.

The so called Bozos dont carry lbm in rod form, only tubes of aiges 2 and ivorene 3which need to be sealed. Saw prathers list of ferrule materials don't think there's any lbm there. Got a foot from Schmelke and its not porous at all with a tighter weave. Bought 3 feet from you, haven't recieved it yet but the pics look promising.

Joe Barringer · Feb 24, 2015

dunkelcustomcue said:
All I can tell you is When I compared the stuff Warther is selling to my old stock that I got from Atlas it wasn't as porous and cleaned up easier.

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Correction!!!

Sorry, I forgot that the Bozo's are importing a lot of their crap nowadays. From what I remember years ago they did in fact sell the same stuff as everyone else but since we do not do business I can't be 100% certain. However, the stuff we carry, Hightowner, Schmelke and Prather carry is in fact all the same stuff as the name of IvoryLike which is anything but IvoryLike. It's LBM; period.

blokid · Feb 27, 2015

As the story, who could I contact to get good LBM ferrule 1" long?
Thanks.

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