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Gluing down bed cloth. - 03-25-2020, 04:48 PM

Can anyone give me tips or point me towards good instructions on how to glue down a bed cloth? There is no wood to nail it too.


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03-25-2020, 06:01 PM

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Dvd - 03-25-2020, 07:24 PM

https://www.seyberts.com/pool-table-...-training-dvd/


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03-26-2020, 12:49 PM

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Kind of weird that the video shows a different installation method vs the staple method.

Also, it shows spray glue being used and then on their site it says this:

"Note for Glue-Down Installations

Simonis cloth can be glued, but only with certain adhesives. Most spray adhesives, WILL NOT hold the cloth in a edge-glue application.

We recommend 3M Fast-Bond10™ for edge-glue glue-down installations. Currently, we are not aware of any other adhesives that will give proper adhesion for a straight edge-glue install."

The OP never mentioned what type of cloth he was planning to use?

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03-27-2020, 09:03 AM

was disappointed that I bought the video and then they used the spray glue in it, and why did simonis let them do that in the video when there was proper glue out there.
  
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03-27-2020, 10:45 AM

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was disappointed that I bought the video and then they used the spray glue in it, and why did simonis let them do that in the video when there was proper glue out there.

I hear that!! Not to mention they show a completely different install pattern as well. I use the same indexing/ stretching method they use for the staple version. Everyone has their own lil twists on it, as do I. I came up with my own way of laying it out and gluing it though. I use RKC250 adhesive. I have also used Parabond m250 and Fastbond 10, they all vary in price , but, all work well.
They should revisit the glue down method that is for sure.

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03-27-2020, 12:31 PM

I know some installers got the RKC250 and went back to the other.
  
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03-27-2020, 05:34 PM

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I know some installers got the RKC250 and went back to the other.
We went back to the 3m10


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03-27-2020, 11:02 PM

RKC250 has been good to me so far.


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03-30-2020, 05:46 AM

Keep in mind, the Simonis installation video shows installation on a bar table. This is NOT considered an "edge-glue" installation, as cloth is folded underneath, and glued on the bottom side of the slate. In this case, you have a slight bit of glue on the top side of the slate, glue on the edge, and glue on the bottom. Along with that, when the slate is placed in the cabinet, the slate rests on the cloth that is glued to the bottom of the slate.

3M-77 is not ideal for edge-glued applications. However, 3M-90 works quite well.


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03-30-2020, 06:35 AM

Here is Rev. Zach Jonas with his method. As I mentioned, everyone does it with their own twist, but, this is the best glue down video demo I have seen thus far for Simonis Cloth:


Rails:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4m0...ature=youtu.be

Bedcloth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgKw...ature=youtu.be

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04-02-2020, 02:26 AM

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Here is Rev. Zach Jonas with his method. As I mentioned, everyone does it with their own twist, but, this is the best glue down video demo I have seen thus far for Simonis Cloth:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgKw...ature=youtu.be
1-3/8" is a pretty light stretch? It sure made closing the pockets easy though!


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04-02-2020, 07:56 AM

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1-3/8" is a pretty light stretch? It sure made closing the pockets easy though!
Yes, I think it is as well. Like I said, everyone has their own twist on how they do it. I think the methodology is solid and it is the best video out on how to do it. My method is very similar.

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04-04-2020, 09:53 AM

May I ask what the difference is in this appliction between the 3m10 and the 3m fastbond10?

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May I ask what the difference is in this appliction between the 3m10 and the 3m fastbond10?
They are the same. Fastbond is quite a bit more money. Around $100 a gallon, RKC about $70 and I think parabond m-250 is the most affordable at like $150 for 5 gallons.

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