Length of cues

John oleson said:

Men's height has obviously changed over the years. If you are 6' tall, does the seemingly standard 58" still make sense?

Am thinking about lightening the weight on the Predators to accommodate the full time use of the 3" extension.

Thanks ... john_oleson@comcast.net

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What i've done on my Mezz. Took out the bolt, added a cf 3" ext and it weighs 20oz. I'm good with that.

I have been told that your cue tip should touch your bottom lip with the butt of the cue sitting on the floor.

For me, that is 58".

John oleson said:

Men's height has obviously changed over the years. If you are 6' tall, does the seemingly standard 58" still make sense?

Am thinking about lightening the weight on the Predators to accommodate the full time use of the 3" extension.

Thanks ... john_oleson@comcast.net

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Same here. I'm 6'-2" tall and have a wing span of 6'-2" which resulted in my having to hold the cue almost on the butt cap.

What I did was remove the factory weight bolt and add my home made 7" extension that weighs 6.7 oz. The trick was to get the weight as far away from my grip hand as I could. So I added a 3" - 3 oz weight to the very end of the extension. The extension without the weight weighs a little over 3 oz and is made with a very light material. It's a slip on extension so that it can be removed easily on jacked up shots.

Now the weight is behind my grip hand and not in my grip hand.

Taking this whole distribution of cue weight a little further I also added a Balance Rite mid cue extension. 3.75" long and weighs 2 oz.

The cue weighs 24 oz and is 70" long. The balance point of the cue is at 23" as measured from the end of the extension.

It takes a while to get use to pulling the cue (weight behind the grip hand) forward.

What got me started on this whole idea was watching small sized pro players on YouTube and where they were gripping the cue, most grip the cue on the center of the cue. Which to me suggested that all they do is keep add different size weight bolts or whatever in the butt of the cue until they like the feel of the stroke.

Been using the cue for over a year and can't even imagine ever playing without the extensions.

You may want to experiment with different size extensions. Rather than getting a 3" extension you may want to try a 6" extension.

Once you get use to the cue I think you will really like it.

Have a good day

John

HawaiianEye said:

I have been told that your cue tip should touch your bottom lip with the butt of the cue sitting on the floor.

For me, that is 58".

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Who thought that up? What is the rationale? What does the distance from bottom lip to floor have to do with anything? Is that some kind of "golden ratio"? Sounds like an old wives tale to me.

HawaiianEye said:

I have been told that your cue tip should touch your bottom lip with the butt of the cue sitting on the floor.

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garczar said:

What does the distance from bottom lip to floor have to do with anything?

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It's just a way of saying taller people need longer cues (because of their wider wingspans).

58" is about chin/lip height for an average male (5' 6").

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Patrick Johnson said:

It's just a way of saying taller people need longer cues (because of their wider wingspans).

58" is about chin/lip height for an average male (5' 6").

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5'6" average?? Where? Munchkin land? Seems kinda short to me. I thought it was 5-9/5-10.

garczar said:

5'6" average?? Where? Munchkin land? Seems kinda short to me. I thought it was 5-9/5-10.

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5'6 does seem short for an avg. american male
but I'm only working with unofficial polls ^_^

evergruven said:

5'6 does seem short for an avg. american male

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I think that's the world average. The average American man is more like 5' 9" I think - but they're not the only pool players.

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Patrick Johnson said:

I think that's the world average. The average American man is more like 5' 9" I think - but they're not the only pool players.

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FWIW, a 58" cue just reaches the chin of a 5' 7" person (with typical body proportions).

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Patrick Johnson said:

I think that's the world average. The average American man is more like 5' 9" I think - but they're not the only pool players.

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Patrick Johnson said:

FWIW, a 58" cue just reaches the chin of a 5' 7" person (with typical body proportions).

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or 5'6..

sean (has been described as "atypical" before ^_^)

ps this all reminds me of what I heard coming up about tennis rackets
that one should fit well in between one's armpit and the grip of one's palm, arm fully extended
of course tennis rackets aren't as practically customizable as pool cues (good for us)

I'm a little confused here. You guys keep talking about wing span. Isn't that the length between your hands when your arms are stretched out like the wings of a bird? How is that related to when a player is down in position to shoot?

FranCrimi said:

I'm a little confused here. You guys keep talking about wing span. Isn't that the length between your hands when your arms are stretched out like the wings of a bird? How is that related to when a player is down in position to shoot?

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If your wing span is larger your bridge and grip hands are typically farther apart.

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Patrick Johnson said:

If your wing span is larger your bridge and grip hands are typically farther apart.

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That's an arbitrary way of measuring someone's span in their stance. We should be focusing on finding a way to measure someone's stance span and then we can discuss cue length relative to that.

Bob Jewett said:

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I think the length should go up with the player's size. The opposite of this that I've seen applied is when an APA 3 who is 5'1" gets fitted out with a 62-inch cue so they can reach more shots. In the meantime, they have to get a stepladder to chalk.

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This is seriously one of the funniest things I've read in a while! :lol:

FranCrimi said:

That's an arbitrary way of measuring someone's span in their stance.

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It's not a way of measuring someone's span in their stance; it's just a way of saying that it's related to height.

I suppose we could estimate spans from pics of players in their stance by estimating their bridge length and the length of butt behind their grip (if we know the length of their cue).

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Patrick Johnson said:

It's not a way of measuring someone's span in their stance; it's just a way of saying that it's related to height.

I suppose we could estimate spans from pics of players in their stance by estimating their bridge length and the length of butt behind their grip (if we know the length of their cue).

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Watch Tyler Styer....on his back stroke he has the longest extended stroke arm I've ever seen. I guess he has long arms, large wing span. I wouldn't be surprised to discover that he plays with an extended cue. Maybe not, but that back stroke is way back behind him, so far that it's amazing the tip doesn't slip out of his bridge hand.

Patrick Johnson said:

It's not a way of measuring someone's span in their stance; it's just a way of saying that it's related to height.

I suppose we could estimate spans from pics of players in their stance by estimating their bridge length and the length of butt behind their grip (if we know the length of their cue).

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But if you're going to talk about what the best cue length for a player should be, then you should find a way to measure them in their stance. Torso length could be a factor too. You guys claim to be scientific yet you succumb to such an arbitrary way of measuring players. You're creative. Come up with something. Figure it out. Challenge yourself.