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04-09-2020, 09:56 PM

I heard his Witness Protection moniker is CTE. So, when John is at work, the code phrase is CTE works. When he goes home, the code phrase is CTE doesn't work. :-)


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Faint memory of a hard tip in 1995.
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Faint memory of a hard tip in 1995. - 04-10-2020, 12:20 PM

I purchased a couple dufferin conversions around the '95 time when I stop in at Gary Victor Billiards in Victorville. At the time there was cue maker that was showing off a tip material that jumped balls very easily. I watched people screw around and jump cue balls from one table to another with his jump cue. All I remember, name wise, was Steve from Phelen.


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04-10-2020, 12:39 PM

All this time I thought it was some guy named Hoppe.


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04-10-2020, 01:05 PM

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I purchased a couple dufferin conversions around the '95 time when I stop in at Gary Victor Billiards in Victorville. At the time there was cue maker that was showing off a tip material that jumped balls very easily. I watched people screw around and jump cue balls from one table to another with his jump cue. All I remember, name wise, was Steve from Phelen.


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04-10-2020, 02:19 PM

The metal jump rod I have has a phenolic tip and I think they predated most jump cues.

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04-10-2020, 02:29 PM

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I can't find the name, but there was a man demonstrating motion dynamics (in spherical geometry?) somewhere around the time of 1900 that demonstrated physical effects like jumping and masse on a 3 cushion table, he used a stick 100cm long.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaspar...ve_de_Coriolis

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04-10-2020, 03:50 PM

When instroke first came to the BCA tournament in Vegas i bought a case and a jump cue made in Germany by the Arthur cue maker. Cant remember was like mid or early 90,s.Dave Yeager was jumping the big ball with a shaft in the 70,s Doubt if he didnt learn from someone else.
  
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04-10-2020, 03:51 PM

The first jump cue I ever saw and only one I ever tried was
a Frog or something close

Jerry Franklin of South west cues and I tried it out on his dads bar table

Jerry smiled and seemed quick to learn, I had trouble and never tried oneagain


A slight change of subject,but I don't recall ever seeing efren jump
  
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04-10-2020, 04:29 PM

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The first jump cue I ever saw and only one I ever tried was a Frog or something close.

Jerry Franklin of South west cues and I tried it out on his dads bar table
Yes, the Frog was definitely among the first jump cues, and its player rep was future BCA Hall of Famer Robin Bell Dodson, who asked onlooking spectators to say "ribbit ribbit" whenever she reached for it.
  
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04-10-2020, 07:49 PM

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Yes, the Frog was definitely among the first jump cues, and its player rep was future BCA Hall of Famer Robin Bell Dodson, who asked onlooking spectators to say "ribbit ribbit" whenever she reached for it.
As far as I can tell from the old ads, The Frog was among the first to have a brand and serious marketing. I remember seeing Robin at Trade Shows with The Frog. I believe it came after the Joe Porper jump/break noted above.

I was unsuccessful in finding ads for jump rods but I vaguely recall them. The jump rods were soon outlawed by changed equipment regulations. I think that was when the minimum length was introduced along with the limitation on metal ferrules.

I don't think jump cues improve the game.


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04-10-2020, 09:37 PM

I think Meucci was the first to mass produce jump cues. I think either Rick Howard or Paul Huebler was the first to market jump break cues. I was the first to market the jump break with longer forearm section. Several used a solid phenolic ferrule tip combo on the fat shaft length jump rods before Mike put them on his cues. I was also the first to use a phenolic leather combo where you break with leather but jump with phenolic. Best of both worlds in my opinion.
  
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