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11-12-2019, 05:35 AM

The Titlist was a veneered one-piece "house" cue built by Brunswick and used as "blank" from which jointed cues were made by numerous builders.

A Hoppe-style cue is a cue with a short black buttcap and no bumper. Most often it is accompanied by an Ivory (or white) ring directly above, like Mr. Webb just posted.

The "Hoppe" designation came about on the heals of the Hoppe Pro. Which was a Brunswick factory two-piece cue made with a Titlist blank. It was made both with an ivory ring and without.


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11-12-2019, 06:28 AM

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The Titlist was a veneered one-piece "house" cue built by Brunswick and used as "blank" from which jointed cues were made by numerous builders.

A Hoppe-style cue is a cue with a short black buttcap and no bumper. Most often it is accompanied by an Ivory (or white) ring directly above, like Mr. Webb just posted.

The "Hoppe" designation came about on the heals of the Hoppe Pro. Which was a Brunswick factory two-piece cue made with a Titlist blank. It was made both with an ivory ring and without.
Believe the member from Singapore who died too young: Titlist Sucker had a great web-site, and photo of his favorite Cues. Titlists, his aka was TitlistSucker.

Also Tate has some info on the history of the Titlist Cue on his web-site,

I play with a Converted Full Splice Original Titlist Circa 1950, it is Full Splice, NOT Titlist Butt Section, New Handle, Titlist Front Original. Butt Secetion is all Originasl.

Point are not 110% perfect, but the Cue is balanced to my likeing, hits well, and has potential to play better then guy with old eyes. Also has Hoppy Ring, Faux Cortland Type Wrap, and is all I need.
  
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11-12-2019, 07:21 AM

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Believe the member from Singapore who died too young: Titlist Sucker had a great web-site, and photo of his favorite Cues. Titlists, his aka was TitlistSucker.

Also Tate has some info on the history of the Titlist Cue on his web-site,

I play with a Converted Full Splice Original Titlist Circa 1950, it is Full Splice, NOT Titlist Butt Section, New Handle, Titlist Front Original. Butt Secetion is all Originasl.

Point are not 110% perfect, but the Cue is balanced to my likeing, hits well, and has potential to play better then guy with old eyes. Also has Hoppy Ring, Faux Cortland Type Wrap, and is all I need.
Hey, CC. I remember Raist Chen; he had some nice cues and was a hell of a shooter, as well.

Here's Tate's website: http://www.palmercollector.com/Titlist.html


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11-12-2019, 07:21 AM

Some Brunswick information here.
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11-12-2019, 07:34 AM

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The Titlist was a veneered one-piece "house" cue built by Brunswick and used as "blank" from which jointed cues were made by numerous builders.

A Hoppe-style cue is a cue with a short black buttcap and no bumper. Most often it is accompanied by an Ivory (or white) ring directly above, like Mr. Webb just posted.

The "Hoppe" designation came about on the heals of the Hoppe Pro. Which was a Brunswick factory two-piece cue made with a Titlist blank. It was made both with an ivory ring and without.
You are correct, my main playing cue is a Willie Hoppe Pro model. Had it refinished to perfection and it plays and looks great. Now, when I refinished it I went with white linen with green speck instead of leather. Just didn't like the leather feel in the summer time. Still a nice old school look to it.


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11-12-2019, 11:39 AM

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11-12-2019, 12:21 PM

In people’s opinions, is there a difference between “Rambow” style butt and “Hoppe” style butt?
  
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11-12-2019, 12:40 PM

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In people’s opinions, is there a difference between “Rambow” style butt and “Hoppe” style butt?
To me, colloquially, they're almost interchangeable. I believe "Rambow-style" better denotes bumper-less. Some build "Hoppe-style" cues (white ring/black butt cap) but add a bumper.


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Titlist conversion.
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To me, colloquially, they're almost interchangeable. I believe "Rambow-style" better denotes bumper-less. Some build "Hoppe-style" cues (white ring/black butt cap) but add a bumper.
Sort of a trick question, but I think you nailed it.
  
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11-15-2019, 11:53 AM

There’s some who swear a Hoppe style
bumper-less cue hits different than a
traditional butt cap/bumper.. I hit with
a Tascarella Hoppe style cue and it
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11-15-2019, 12:18 PM

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In people’s opinions, is there a difference between “Rambow” style butt and “Hoppe” style butt?
Actually, they're not exactly the same. Rambow made some Hoppe style buttsleeves that have been described with the white ring above a small black buttplate, but he also did a larger white (usually ivory) buttplate in some cues. If you look at the cue Paul Newman used in The Hustler, that is that second type of cue, different from the Hoppe style.

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11-15-2019, 02:06 PM

I had a rare ( to me ) four point ebony Hoppe.
...like this..

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I bought it at a ridiculously low price....suspected it might’ve been hot...
...heard of a guy who had one...out of town...tracked him down and left a couple messages.
He never called....after three years, I sold it.
Would’ve liked to have it thinned down, those butts were thick..made for holding at the
front end of the grip....but i wouldn’t have felt good about it....


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