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Vineland, NJ 1974 - 01-16-2020, 04:32 PM

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01-16-2020, 04:50 PM

Still open in same spot. Jose runs it now iirc. https://www.google.com/maps/uv?hl=en...oiowCnoECA0QBg
  
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01-17-2020, 08:51 AM

According to google maps that pool hall is still there. Good for them.
  
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01-17-2020, 09:38 AM

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According to google maps that pool hall is still there. Good for them.
Did you see the pics in my post?? Still going strong and run by longtime NJ player J. Garcia.
  
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01-17-2020, 09:45 AM

The picture's caption refers to legendary referee "Cue Ball Kelly" as Charles Kelly. This was not his real name, but it was, instead, Carl Zingale.

First time I saw Hopkins and Martin was in 1976 at the PPPA World 14.1 Championships in Asbury Park, NJ, so this goes back even further than my days around tournament straight pool.
  
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The picture's caption refers to legendary referee "Cue Ball Kelly" as Charles Kelly. This was not his real name, but it was, instead, Carl Zingale.

First time I saw Hopkins and Martin was in 1976 at the PPPA World 14.1 Championships in Asbury Park, NJ, so this goes back even further than my days around tournament straight pool.
Do you remember a little known N.J. player at that tournament named Ernie Lager?


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01-17-2020, 05:33 PM

Jose Garcia tops Hoppy in a 1975 match
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01-19-2020, 03:13 PM

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02-05-2020, 10:51 PM

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Jose Garcia tops Hoppy in a 1975 match
Many of you 14.1 junkies (I’m one, too) have probably seen this excellent match between Jose Garcia and Jack Colavita. https://youtu.be/uYcqzRykLVo

Colavita won, but Garcia played beautifully and was on his way to winning but for missing a routine shot due, perhaps, to going a bit quickly and not giving the shot the full respect that any and every shot deserves.

In any event, what I find fascinating is how obviously (to my eye) and assiduously Colavita played break shots so as to avoid scratching. It almost seemed as if he was willing to sacrifice any reasonable probability of having a shot as long as he didn’t lose the CB. Rack after rack brought a soft break shot and his hope for something to become available. Of course, like so many competitors in so many sports, when a reasonable shot was not there, he acted as if he had been cheated. In any event, I do not view his break shot results as being a function of the old “slow cloth” and “balls that aren’t lively” story. He just babied the shot. Garcia stroked his break shots with more speed, and as you’d expect, he got more spread.
  
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I'm familiar with 'ol Bud Lager. Me and Bud go way back.
  
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Do you remember a little known N.J. player at that tournament named Ernie Lager?
I do remember the name from the 1976 World 14.1 in Asbury Park and I'm sure I saw him. At the same event there was a player named Ernie Costa, and as I vaguely recall they were similar in appearance.

Here is the start of an item in the National Billiard News about him a year later....

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I do remember the name from the 1976 World 14.1 in Asbury Park and I'm sure I saw him. At the same event there was a player named Ernie Costa, and as I vaguely recall they were similar in appearance.

Here is the start of an item in the National Billiard News about him a year later....

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Played a lot of pool with Ernie when I was kid.
Ernie was a sharp 50'-60's cat.
Always dressed well and drove a late model Cadillac.
He was not a top player but could still play quite well.
He was a tall thin guy.
Also had a nice Paradise cue.


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I do remember the name from the 1976 World 14.1 in Asbury Park and I'm sure I saw him. At the same event there was a player named Ernie Costa, and as I vaguely recall they were similar in appearance.

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Ernie Costa of Brooklyn, NY was a very fine player who cracked the top 10 in the PPPA rankings once or twice.
  
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