WOW BIADO vs. PULPUL Biado forgot to call the 10 ball on the hill and lost

sheffield6 said:

Exactly this. I just watched the complete Shane v Alcano match again,it was obvious to a blind man on a galloping horse where Shane was going with the 10 ball, and having Uncle Fester as a ref didn't help.Some people sell there integrity very cheaply.

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alstl said:

Originally I thought the same thing but having seen the same ref let it slide in other matches and only enforce it when the opponent said something, I put the blame squarely on the tournament director who allowed non-standard rules to be used and to a lesser extent Alcano and Paopao.

Having said that most Americans have no idea what poverty in the P I is like. If I was living in that dog eat dog environment I may have done the same thing as Alcano and Papao.

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alstl said:

Originally I thought the same thing but having seen the same ref let it slide in other matches and only enforce it when the opponent said something, I put the blame squarely on the tournament director who allowed non-standard rules to be used and to a lesser extent Alcano and Paopao.

Having said that most Americans have no idea what poverty in the P I is like. If I was living in that dog eat dog environment I may have done the same thing as Alcano and Papao.

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alstl said:

Originally I thought the same thing but having seen the same ref let it slide in other matches and only enforce it when the opponent said something, I put the blame squarely on the tournament director who allowed non-standard rules to be used and to a lesser extent Alcano and Paopao.

Having said that most Americans have no idea what poverty in the P I is like. If I was living in that dog eat dog environment I may have done the same thing as Alcano and Papao.

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alstl said:

Originally I thought the same thing but having seen the same ref let it slide in other matches and only enforce it when the opponent said something, I put the blame squarely on the tournament director who allowed non-standard rules to be used and to a lesser extent Alcano and Paopao.

Having said that most Americans have no idea what poverty in the P I is like. If I was living in that dog eat dog environment I may have done the same thing as Alcano and Papao.

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sheffield6 said:

Excellent point,....... their Country,their competition,their rules,their ethics.
Just 2 things I'd like to add,
1. Im sure Efren wouldn't have done it.
2. I'd loved to have seen them pull that stunt on Earl.

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chambalero said:

earl is a joke there. especially to what he did in 2002 to busty. people watch earl to taunt him and set him off. people like seeing him lose it.

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lost said:

Very true. I'd imagine the Filipinos may wonder about (and possibly resent) people who come from rich countries (with better career options) that show up in their poverty stricken 3rd world country to play in pool tournaments anyway. It has to be somewhat awkward.
Most "western" middle-aged single men (or older) that heads over there is at least suspected of looking for something besides pool rooms. That's pretty obvious.

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lost said:

Most "western" middle-aged single men (or older) that heads over there is at least suspected of looking for something besides pool rooms. That's pretty obvious.

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Colonel said:

It's a shame buts it's what pool has become. It started years ago with many people crying about the luck factor in 9 ball. Then someone invents 10 ball to change the dynamics of the break in nine ball, then the stupidest rule I ever heard which if you miss a shot & didn't call a safety & your opponent is hooked he can give it back supposedly to eliminate luck. That rule blows my mind. In high caliber players you shoot at a ball to pocket it & get shape on the next ball. So if the ball jaws & your perfectly in line on the next ball but hooked from ball that jawed you can give it back!?!?! Supposedly to eliminate luck, you should feel lucky I missed. It's just ridiculous. Then the called case ball, again supposedly to eliminate luck. Well this tournament displayed numerous instances of this being the exact opposite
result of the reason for the rule. SVB, Bustamante, Reyes & Biado all lost games in this tournament for failure to call the 10 ball, Biado lost the match over this rule that supposedly eliminates luck when in fact all of the aforementioned players opponents won those games through the luck of their opponent not calling the 10 ball, Biados opponent won the match through luck.

With A+ caliber through pro level players just exactly how often is a ball slopped in? Maybe once every 50-100 racks, it's not really a factor once you reach a certain level of proficiency in this game. In fact it seems far more games & sometimes matches such as this are lost to LUCK of someone forgetting to call a hanger. It's just ponderous.

Rotation games were played forever without all of this nonsense that has developed over the last 15 years in ridiculous rule changes in 9 ball regarding the break, where balls are racked, etc etc. then someone invents 10 ball with all of its ridiculous rules & all of these things have done the exact opposite of what was intended. As far as those that quote the "WPA RULES", well quite frankly f*ck the WPA. All of these things have ruined rotation pool & turned it into something it was never meant to be. To those that defend all the ridiculous changes citing elimination of luck well you're probably a banger. As I said above, once you reach a certain level of play slopping in balls is such a rare occurrence it's negligible. Maybe it happens a lot on banger league nights, but not in elite play.

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Nostroke said:

A good tournament turned into a joke because of Simon Says rules!! What a travesty!!

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