I have a beautiful and simple 4 Point bumperless Hoppe Murray Tucker Cue with a piloted Ivory joint, Ferrell’s, and Hoppe ring. Two shafts, 13mm and 12.75. I cant see a table roll at all with either shaft, on or off the butt, but I’m sure someone might find a nano roll. This is a players cue, with great feel. I’m asking $1250.00