Try this again, my PLANS for straightening out Professional Pool.the

realkingcobra

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Since some of you are so negetive, lets try this a different way. At this point I don't really care if someone takes my ideas and trys to copy them and do what I'm planning to do, if that be the case I'll simply retire and go fishing for the rest of my life and not give a damn, or look back.

First of all, I've been patiently waiting and planning on how to take over the world of Professuonal Pool since May 1983 when i got out of the army. I tried playing pool to support my wife and kids, and did so for several months, but soon realized that without a support program and no ladder to climb to increase my income, i would be forced to gamble for every dollar i made, there wws no way that was going to last, so i basically quit playing pool way back then to get a job as a waynof supporting my family. The first job i ever worked besides being in the Army for 9 years, i landed goingntonwork for Queen City Billiards, actually building home style pool tables. Well, having a pool player background and a natural math ability, i soon started talking with the owners about making their lool tables play better, so when my ideas made sence to them, they let me make changes to their pool tables, and i have to say, to this day i can safely say we built the best playing home style pool tables I've ever played on to date. But, after 9 months of employment with Queen City, i didn't feel as if i was doing enough because no matter where i went to play pool after work, the pool tables in the bars still played like shit, so i felt that maybe that was my calling, so i gave notice that i was quitting to start my own service business fixing the bar tables in my area as there was a shit ton of them as Washington State at the time only had ONE pool hall, and that was the OLD 211 Club down on 2nd and Union, upstairs. Man, i hated riding in that shit and piss smelling elevator up to the second floor, and leaving there at night sometimes, well lets just say you might be risking your life putting it lightly!!

I told the owners my reason for quiting was because i wanted to try and improve the bar table industry, and that one day I'd buildnthe best bar box in the world, they laughed at me and said good luck, so i went out on my own. I worked from June 1984 to June 1989 in the bar table business fixing, recovering, rebuilding, and otherwise and successfully built up 328 accounts and serving over 1,000 pool tables a year, BUT didn't feel as if i was changing or improving the conditions of playing pool as instill didn't see anyone coming along and organizing or straightening out pool for the Professional's at all, SOOOO....I decided maybe whatni needed to do was open a pool room and maybe I could effect the desired change that way. Opened my first pool room in Oct 1989 with my then partner Rich Gieler, but soon after opening, realized we had some problems that couldn't be overlooked so I sold my half of the business to him and got out, i still had my service business to fall back on so i went back to work. But i still hadn't gotten the pool hall idea out of my head, so i opened another pool room in April 1990, after it was up and running, i opened another pool room in 1991, now i had 2 pool rooms, BUT without the sale of food and alcohol in either location, it didn't take long to realize i was on the Titanic waiting to meet the Iceberg and sink like a lead balloon, so i ended up closing my pool rooms down in 1992, and back to my service business again. Well, a few yesrs later, i just didn't see anything changing so i once again decided I'd try something different, so, in June 1995 i gave my service business away to ny younger brother who worked for me for several years, didn't charge him a dime, as i had no intentions of stepping back into it again, i was NOW going to follow through with my promise i had made when i quit Queen City Billiards and build my own best in tbe world coin opersted pool tables!!! So, freed up from all distractions, i set out on my new path. By July 18th, 6 weeks later, i had designed my own King Cobra coin operated pool table and sold it for $3,000....and the bar owner wanted more of them, he liked it so much. Well, over the next 4 years, i built and sold 128 King Cobra pool tables, always refining them, making them better and better. The pride of my tables were sitting in 4 different casino's, 9ft coin operated pool tables.....9 FOOT COIN OPERATED POOL TABLES....IN CASINO'S, can you just imagine that!! One casino in Renton had 4 tables at 75 cents a game and was pulling in $7,500 a month, it was crazy. Had another casino in Auburn with 3 9fts at 75 cents a game pulling in $5,000 a month, another casino in Tukwila with 3 9fts at a $1 a game, OR $3 per half hour as i designed in a timer system that would allow the customer to choose how they wanted to pay, and they were producing $5,000 a month like clock work. Last casino was up in Everett, it had 4 9fts at 75 cents a game and was pulling in $6,000 a month! So, i had finally taken the steps to bring a pool table to the market place that could change pool, but i needed to find someone willing to build my pool table's, so began the search. In March 2000 i was directed to check out Diamond billiards as a possibility of being the manufacturer I was looking for as everyone in the business of manufacturing pool tables wasn't interested in making a change, Tom with Global Billiards gave me tbe lead.

I had a nice offer on the table from Brunswick for 5% of tbe sales if I'd design my coin op under their name, but i felt they were to big, and had already had 3 failed attempts in the coin op industry, so i went after Diamond instesd, reason being....if you want to cbange the world of playing pool, you MUST have everyone playing on pool tables that all play the same!!! So, in March 2000 i met Greg Sullivan, DIAMOND BILLIARDS ENTERS THE PICTURE!!!

Now, 18 years later, it's time to make my next major move, raising the money needed to gain the attention of the Professional Pool Players....next page. Have to feed my cats first as they WON'T leave me alone!!!
 

ROB.M

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Trying to straighten out pro pool is like trying to straighten out a bowl of micro waved left over spaghetti noodles...


Best of luck.


Rob.M
 

realkingcobra

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Ok, the brats, all 8 of them are fed, now back to the post.

Here's some of the beliefs I've been following for the last 35 years are so that are the road map to success in this sport.

The chain reaction rule, Who gains control of the Professional pool players gets Joe Public on board. Who ever gets Joe public on board control's the advertiser's. Who ever control's the advertiser's control's more paychecks, and who ever control's more pay checks, control's the expansion of Professuonal pool as a sport, AND who ever controls that, now controls Joe Public andnthe cycle nust continues on.

The 2 major obstacles that have to be overcome because of all those who have come before me, is TRUST and BELIEVABILITY by Joe Public and the Professional pool players on an international level.

Now, how do you solve that problem? First off, you have to find a way into this industry that will be an acceptable method of raising the funds needed to start bing the Sponsor of small MAJOR events to start the begining changes that need, MUST take place in oder to gain peoples trust. How do you do that? Well, here's my plan.

First off, I'm not trying to brag or pat myself on the back, forget the table mechainic side of my knowledge, looking only at the installer side of my skills, I'm probably the most knowledgeable installer on the planet as i have developed my skills of installing cloth on tables and leveling pool tables and replacing cushions way beyond that of most in this industry....but what good is it to be better than everyone else when it can't make an impact in this industry world wide? My co-workers around the world still have no wherr to turn to learn how to improve their skills as to better the playing conditions of pool tables around the world. It does no good to build and sell a Diamond, Brunswick, or any other pool table to anyone if those in the service industry don't know hkw to properly maintain them as to best represent the sport at home and in commercial environments.

So, I've been working on my own private label "Realkingcobra" billiards adhesive in which I'm currently waiting on for my final approval this week, my final test samples may even arrive tomorrow. Once approved, the glue will be dyed blue and go into the private labeling stage next. From there, Diamond billiards will have the sole distribution rights to my billiards glue. This adhesive is used for installing the bed cloth, cushions, and facings, available in quart cans, or F style screw off lid gallon cans.

Then, as a reward for choosing to use my glue in this industry, I'm going to start very soon, building my installers library of knowledge for ALL installers world wide, for free....how to install ALL pool cloths, Simonis, Championship, Granito, snooker cloth so it don't have to be restreatched because it comes loose, billiards cloth so 500 staples won't be needed to install it, an have to be pulled out everytime the cloth gets replaced. With my glue down stretch index system, if the backing on the slates are all messed up or wood missing, it don't matter as you're not using it anyway. So, my library will be free persay, but in order to get the access code to enter it, you'll need to buy either a quart, or gallon of my glue. Now, if people want to help me raise the funds needed to start the begining changes ofnthis sport that NEED to happen if we're to survive and grow as a sport, all you have to do is INSIST your cloth installer uses my method and glue to install your bed cloths and learns how ro recover the rails as I'll show how to do in my free videos....that's it, I'll take it from there, as I'm the person in charge of my profits, I'll benthe one building the SPONSOR pile of miney to get the begining tournaments started....there you go, there's where the money is coming from!!
 

realkingcobra

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Trying to straighten out pro pool is like trying to straighten out a bowl of micro waved left over spaghetti noodles...


Best of luck.


Rob.M

Did you read the part about my privatized glue sales and Free Library of knowledge for installers with the purchase of one quart or one gallon of my glue?
 

realkingcobra

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ALL pool table manufactures, ALL cloth manufactures, ALL cushion manufactures, and ALL slate manufacturers have done a BANG up job of selling their products to the world in this industry and have gotten away without having to TEACH anyone how to work on, OR install the products being sold. As my Buddy Mark Gregory always says when prescribing the process of sales in this business,...."how much can i make, and how much can i get away with" is the true moto in sales in this industry, and he's 100% right.

We can NOT rely on this industry to make tables more playable after they're sold to a customer. You can not as an installer, call up any manufacture in this industry and get proper directions on how to install the products THEY make and sell, as THEY themselves don't know. OTHER than SIMONIS, you can't call Championship, Granito, or ANY other cloth manufactures and get an answer to...."How tight do i install your cloth"....OR, "Do you have any directions on how to install your cloth so that i, as an installer might learn the CORRECT way of installing your cloth" The answers don't exist, because all they care about is sales!! Think about it people!!!! This damn sport can NOT afford to fund itself, and everyone involved in it knows it, BUT if a source comes along OUTSIDE ofnthis industry and DOES gain control of it, and takes it to Joe Public and gets the program accepted, ALL those with the exception of a few, stand to lose a lot of sales, and thatnjust can't be allowed to happen, so what could have been done a long time ago.....was NEVER part of their plan, believe that! So, why hasn't there ever been a Pro Tour, truth is, to many bottom feeders will lose millions of dollars if this sport was to ever get organized!!!

We live in a mobile world today, and the sooner everyone realises that, the sooner you'll realize that streaming Pro Matches from 8 different pool tables all at the same time, viewers choice is the ONLY way to look at gaining viewership, Joe Public as they're on the move all the time, don't want to watch pool on TV, hell my grandkids stream movies on their damn Sony playstation, they don't watch TV, and they're only 8 yrs old!! Want to get LIVE pool matches on Netflix, give them a reason that makes sence for them to jump on board, but don't just ask them for their support with your hand out expecting a pile of cash to drop into your hand!!! Give them a reason first, when we're READY they might not be the ONLY option on the table!!!

BUT, we have to work together and start somewhere so that a few Pro's can test the water and report back to the rest of the world this shit is for real people!!!
 

realkingcobra

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I assume a respirator is strongly advised for this adhesive?

No, it's not like the FB 10 I've been using for the last 30+ years, it actually has very little smell at all. And when using it, it's only in small quantities when used right.

And as far as that goes, when using any glues it's always smart to make sure you have ventilation. Safety is always the responsibility of the user, shit, look at the use of tide pods today....who in hell would have ever guessed that would happen, and all the warning labels in the world won't help!!
 
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realkingcobra

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I assume a respirator is strongly advised for this adhesive?

On a side note, a lot of the jigs i use, fir example a table saw jig that mounts to any table saw fence to give the installer the ability to sand the sub-rails clean of any glue build up before installing new cushions, utilizing the feather strip data as a guide to parallel the rail to the 48" guide fence for a desd perfect straight sanding will also be available through my website for ordering, along with the free video to watch demonstrating the usenof the guide fence. It can also be used for minor modifications like converting a GC1 sub rail over to fit the new K55 cushions by guiding the rail against the table saw blade for s xead perfect bevel change and sub-rail width correction, leaving virtually no saw blade cut marks in the sub rail face.
 

Cuebuddy

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Glen please don't let the game make you go crazy. We talked about a dozen times on the phone and in person, you're ideas have merit and you are a driven man. The things you have done for the industry are above and beyond what most have ever dreamed of and it would be a shame if you completely quit your passion. Fishing is great but the game of pool is where your heart is.

I hope you continue to share the knowledge that you have perfected and teach the trade that you have invented, rock on brother and stay the course.
 

realkingcobra

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Ok, on with my game plan Once glue sales start building my Pro Players bank account, I'll work on buying the camera system needed and proceed to install the system over the 4 Diamond 9ft Pro Ams available for my usage, and test the system through live broadcasts of regular usage of the tables, until we achieve the desired results. I don't know much about this, so I'll be bringing in help to make sure it's done right the first time. Once the stage is set, which by the way is in Auburn, WA. I'll then start making sure to set aside $48,000 for the first event live. When the first event takes place the Pro's will be paid according to my payout formula, first round loss 16-9 pays $1,000 each, second round loss pays 8-5 $2,000 each. 4-3 pays $4,000 ea, 2nd pays $8,000, 1sr pays $16,000....all pay will be guaranteed.
 

drlouis

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I actually really like this idea.

not that you need, or even want, my endorsement, seeing how in this group I'm literally no one.

of course there are challenges to overcome, but that is true of any endeavor.
 

realkingcobra

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I actually really like this idea.

not that you need, or even want, my endorsement, seeing how in this group I'm literally no one.

of course there are challenges to overcome, but that is true of any endeavor.
Thank you, and you're just in time for the juicy sweet part of my plans....LOL
 

realkingcobra

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Ok, now that we've established where the initial sponsor money is coming from, I'll be building the installer library starting in June at the Diamond factory, and will remain there until it's finished, and if anyone is in doubt of my abilities to teach this industry, go buy the Simonis cloth Installation DVDs, and you'll learn something about my skills, they're real, and they've educated a lot of installers around the world already, but they were just a tease when compared to what'll be in my free library. Leveling Diamond tables, installing and and leveling 3 piece slates, how do you fix a crowned slate, everything....found a Diamond table to buy, it's a Professional, how do i take it apart and move it with my buddy.....will be in the library as well, by video, step by step....right on your phone!!
 
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realkingcobra

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I've already been over the rules of the Professional Pool Players tournaments for 10 ball, so lets move on to how to picm the 16 players for the first event, and by the way, yes the first event will run $4.95 per day and last 2 days.

So, how do you licm 16 players, well my intentions are to use a skill level review of a players ability to play the ghost playing 10 ball.

Skill level test is as follows, 10 racks of 10 ball, predetermined rack pattern, no racking aids other than a rack triangle may be used to rack the balls, 1 ball on the foot spot.

Player breaks from anywhere behind the head string. No ball in hand is allowed to begin with, but the player does get the first shot after the break to begin with, even if no balls are.made on the break. First then that takes place is a player adds up the bonus points on the break, being 1 point for any balls pocketed on the break, AND any balls past the side pockets towards the head end of the table, for up to 4 bonus points total. After that, the player will then continue to run out allbthe remaining balls in rotation, if sucessful the player will be awarded 10 additional points. If a player pockets the 10 on the break, it will be respotted on the foot spot and play will commence, but the player will recieve 1 additional pointnfor pocketing the 10 on the break as well, even if it was already counted as a ball made on the break for the break bonus points. If a player scratches or jumps the cue off the table during a break, the inning still counts as 1 of 10, but nonooints will be awarded. The maximum score a player can acheave without any bonus points for successfully breaking and clearing the table of 10 racks is 100 points, if all bonus points are picked up in each rack, the maximum points that can be acheaved is 150 points.

For this first event, skill level testing can be performed on ANY standard Diamond 9ft ProAm, Smart table, or Professional provided it's of the blue label designed rails and has the stock ProCut pockets, and has the Simonis Tour Blue cloth installed.... this is non-negotiable!! In an attempt to make the skill level testing fair to everyone, simular tables MUST be used as to basicly create the same playing field for all those taking the skill level test. This skill level test can be performed anywhere in the world as long as it's performed on a required Diamond table.

All test scores will be emailed in to my office for listing the results and compiling all the information drawn from them. The first testing will allow players to submit at least one skill level test within a 6 month period, no scores will be posted until after the cutoff deadline, all scores will be accompanied with a skill level test registration fee of $25 USD.

ONCE the deadline has passed, all scores will be posted on my Realkingcobra website as well as who the 16 players will be, the next 4 highest scoring players will be listed as alternate players in the event any of the top 16 players can not make it to the event. Once the skill level testing starts taking place the tournament dates will be posted.
 

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Ok, lets for Simplicity purposes, lets say this first PRO tournament went off without a hitch and everybody was happy and everybody got paid!!!! The next step is the take a look at the skill level test fees, add them up, then take a look at the ppv income, add everything up, hell, i don't know, maybe 50,000 people from around the world paid the $4.95 on day one, who knows, but....lets say they did, and love the program, well....we have just got started so lets dream and say 50,000 bought one ppv, thats $247,500 USD, i don't know what the expenses are but lets say with everything all added together we now have a pot of gold to work with that adds up to $200,00 in the prize fund. Ok, lets set the stage again, only this time, lets set 4 10 ball events, one per quarter, give the world 2 months to get their test scores in and on file, announcing the 16 players again 1 month pryer to the up coming quartly tournament and do it again....only this time, there's a little twist in the action....remember the winner of the first event????? He was crowned the Undisputed World 10 ball champion along with winning the tournament and getting paid at the same time....now fast forward to the NEXT and first quarterly 10 ball world tournament....which MAIN purpose...is to decide who the number 1 contender is to TAKE ON the reigning world champion in a title match!!!! Now, both players, win OR lose, are playing for $32,000 each....the following Sunday....live, title on the line!!! NOW, not only is there 4 world Pro Only tournamnts taming place every year, buy there's a crowned world CHAMPION willing to put his crown on the line against any number 1 contender....BUT, he don't have to wait for a mandatory title match to get action, he can take on ANY of the TOP 16 listed PROS at any time he wants.....but they all now have to match up between themselves anywhere in the world to try and earn the position of number 1 contender....by beating the number 1 contender that LOST against the reigning world champion so they can take THAT PERSONS place as the number 1 contender but....he has to get past the player that just challenged HIS new nbr 1 ranking, because he wants to stay in action, and because the world champion declined his challenge as he has someone else in mind he wants to put his title on the line against, and he knows its a risk, because if he loses his title, he also loses the money he earns defending it, and to regain the title, he may have to go through the field of quarterly competitors, and win the tournament in order to gain a mandatory challenge match with the reigning Undisputed world champion to get his title back.
 

realkingcobra

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Joe public is now the official sponsor, and maybe now there's several million in the tournament bank account, so it's time to take a look at expanding the event center, and expanding the games played, like quarterly 9 ball, producing the reigning world 9-ball champion, and don't forget about 8 ball, 4 quarterly 8 ball events are needed as well, also producing the 8-ball reigning world champion, and hey guess what....if a player was to hold ALL 3 titles, wouldn't he be called the Triple Crown World Champion???
 

realkingcobra

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There's plenty of room and lots of dates available to set world championship 14.1 tournaments though only 1 major event per year, but would still produce a reining world champion, who don't have to wait a year to defend his title in a mandatory title defence match, that title can be challenged anytime. Don't forget a world one pocket championship and a bank pool world championship as well, but once again because they're not the main stream games world wide, they're limited to one world class tournament to determine the number 1 contender to take on the reining world champion for his title. So to sum it all up in a nut shell, 6 world chamionship games of pool are being played constantly with revolving doors for Pros to get in without leaving home first, their skill level test opens the door, their heart keeps them in!!!

As this program grows, so does the field of Pro's, up to the maximum of 128 players representing this sport at all times. Exhibition matches can be played all over the world paid for by the active Pro Player funds in which i control until it's time to turn it over to a real Pro Pool governing body, but that is going to take a lot of trust on my part, not after going througj hell to straighen it out and build it into something real!!

Once we.get this program up and running, all official test tables are going to be required to be registered as test tables and will be required to pay an annual fee of $500 but in return, all test score filing fees will be splitnwith the test table location and the tournament program. All tournaments will require a pretest score on file in order to rank players and continually seek out new players.
 

realkingcobra

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And still there's more to my plans that involve the Semi-Pros as well as amateurs, juniors, womens events, and senior citizens events as wll as leading this sport WITH organization behind it, into the Olympics!!!!!
 

realkingcobra

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As this sport grows in the direction I'd love to see it go, i know i may sound crazy as hell, but i envision an event center for the world to come and play in consisting of 256 9ft pool tables permanently set up as the worlds playgound of world class pool, see we don't have anything lime that, but football does, baseball does, tennis does, auto racing does, soccer does, golf does, basketball does.....every major sport has some mind of event center, why not pool too?? NOT TALKING ABOUT A POOL HALL EITHER!!!
 
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