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08-24-2019, 12:31 AM

this thread is exactly why AZ is no longer relevent to pool... Jerry doesn't even bother to read his own forumn any more.........


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08-24-2019, 01:07 AM

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this thread is exactly why AZ is no longer relevent to pool... Jerry doesn't even bother to read his own forumn any more.........
This thread is talking about pool.

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08-24-2019, 01:39 AM

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You evaded the question.

If two race car drivers both drive 500 miles and one does it in 3 hours and the other does it in 4, which one is the greatest race?

Would it make a difference if one driver was on a track that was a 1 mile circle and the other was on a half mile circle?
Not quite the same.

Driving 500 miles isn't hard if you can put your foot on the gas.

Running over 500 balls in straight pool, on the other hand, is hard. Running over 600 balls is much more difficult than running over 500.

Therefore running 626 is a greater accomplishment than running 526.
  
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08-24-2019, 03:22 AM

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That's because no one considers it a feat worth doing again other wise it would be done again, breaking old records like Hank Aron did loose value after the first time it was set
Most everyone consider Babe to be the best home run hitter of all time just like there is zero guestion Wille is considered the best straight pool player of all time
What both have in common is they were the best under the lights in big moments that added to thier greatness, Hank and John are all so rans


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Hank Aaron an also ran? Now that's funny. He's pretty much acknowledged as the greatest hitter of all time, along with Ted Williams.


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08-24-2019, 04:35 AM

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Hank Aaron an also ran? Now that's funny. He's pretty much acknowledged as the greatest hitter of all time, along with Ted Williams.
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That's because no one considers it a feat worth doing again other wise it would be done again, breaking old records like Hank Aron did loose value after the first time it was set
Most everyone consider Babe to be the best home run hitter of all time just like there is zero guestion Wille is considered the best straight pool player of all time
What both have in common is they were the best under the lights in big moments that added to thier greatness, Hank and John are all so rans


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Of all time?

Ruth would get shut out by today's aces.
  
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I was just talking about the difficulty monetizing john's run. Gonna be tough!
I could do like that woman if I could just find some rib bones that big! Well, maybe not. I was fascinated by jugglers and those that balance things effortlessly as a youngster. I spent a lot of dead time at work trying, not ever going to be something I am good at. Spent countless hours shuffling and dealing cards too, I could do a perfect split and a perfect split between every card. Four shuffles and the deck was back where it started. I could pick up a deck of cards and tell if one was missing too, I could feel the difference between fifty-one and fifty-two cards. Anytime I seemed to balance something though, almost always a cheat somewhere!
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Of all time?

Ruth would get shut out by today's aces.
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Of all time?

Ruth would get shut out by today's aces.
Yes, and Jesse Owens loses to Usain Bolt in the 100 meters by nearly a second, but so what? A man can only be judged by the standards of his own day and his performance against his own contemporaries.

Finally, in the Bible, there is a book of Ruth but not a book of Aaron. Case closed.
  
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Yes, and Jesse Owens loses to Usain Bolt in the 100 meters by nearly a second, but so what? A man can only be judged by the standards of his own day and his performance against his own contemporaries.
That's exactly my point.

I agree Ruth was a great hitter, in his era.

But of all time? That's laughable.
  
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It takes 8 perfect faro shuffles to return a full deck to its original order, not 4.

Could be eight to get the suits right. Seems like it was three or four times to put the numbers in order again. Might have been eight to do that but I don't remember it taking that many shuffles to know where every card in the deck was at. I'm working from memory from over fifty years ago so always possible I simply forgot how many shuffles anything took. Three or four shuffles resulted in some order that was handy to know but I've slept a bunch of times since playing with cards for hours when I was sitting around alone and bored.

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That's exactly my point.

I agree Ruth was a great hitter, in his era.

But of all time? That's laughable.
It's not a point ,, you are judged how you did against your peers , 6 times Ruth doubled up the next closet to him in home runs run for his career he averaged over 40 homers and batted 342,,
He was also voted either 1or 2 for the best athlete of the century
Point being is even today Babe is mentioned in the discussion of the best , something that simply won't be the case for JS

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It's not a point ,, you are judged how you did against your peers , 6 times Ruth doubled up the next closet to him in home runs run for his career he averaged over 40 homers and batted 342,,
He was also voted either 1or 2 for the best athlete of the century
Point being is even today Babe is mentioned in the discussion of the best , something that simply won't be the case for JS

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Of course. Not only are you "judged against your peers" but you also play against your peers , all during the same time frame. I'm pretty damn sure that if the pitchers of Ruth's time threw the same ball they use today and pitched at the same speeds the batters would have adjusted their swing to meet the challenge. Ruth may have hit even more home runs...

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Of course. Not only are you "judged against your peers" but you also play against your peers , all during the same time frame. I'm pretty damn sure that if the pitchers of Ruth's time threw the same ball they use today and at the same speeds the batters would have adjusted their swing to meet the challenge. Ruth may have hit even more home runs...
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Of course. Not only are you "judged against your peers" but you also play against your peers , all during the same time frame. I'm pretty damn sure that if the pitchers of Ruth's time threw the same ball they use today and pitched at the same speeds the batters would have adjusted their swing to meet the challenge. Ruth may have hit even more home runs...
Zero question in my mind ,


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