i just know that two of the guys on that team are somewhat known pros in taiwan (yu and zheng) the rest of the team are probably just strong amateur players in the country.
i just know that two of the guys on that team are somewhat known pros in taiwan (yu and zheng) the rest of the team are probably just strong amateur players in the country.
The reason it's an issue is that the open division at the BCAPL Nationals is not "open" like, say the US Open 10 Ball Championship is open. It is for players up to a certain skill level. Above that you are supposed to be in one of the higher divisions.
Incorrect. If you play BCAPL in Vegas, you can come in and play in the Open Division first time.
After you play, you get rated by your finishing position. If singles finish is high enough, you get raised to Advanced.
If your team finished high enough, the same players cannot play in the Open the next year ( the think only 2 or 3 originals) but your team can play in the Advanced or Masters.
Um, not necessarily! Players are ranked by "Known Ability" before coming in the first time.
We have players in Arizona that were marked as "Advanced" before this year and they have never played at Nationals even once.
If someone is PRO caliber or Top Amateur in a different country, why in the world would they want to come and compete in the OPEN division? Unless they wanted to rob the tournament....
Someday, maybe the Advanced and Master will grow large enough that the prize money is higher than the OPEN Division and players can come in and try and rob those tourneys at least once. And then the OPEN would be a great fair field of dedicated 'League Players'!
You will need to show me that ruling that handicaps a player before playing the Nationals
The reason it's an issue is that the open division at the BCAPL Nationals is not "open" like, say the US Open 10 Ball Championship is open. It is for players up to a certain skill level. Above that you are supposed to be in one of the higher divisions.
From the BCAPL website under E3 Player Classifications of the Tournament Regulations:
2. Any player may be determined to be Advanced, Master or Grand Master by the Tournament Qualification Committee based on known ability or recent tournament results.
Here's the link: http://www.playbca.com/portals/0/2012nc/12tregs.pdf
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The Open division was not meant for top rated players to be able to come in and steal just because they haven't played in it before. I stand by my first statement that you called incorrect:
If you look at the eligibility for the open singles event, the chart sayBs no one above open players are allowed to compete in that divisioHn.
If you look further down the regs at the eligibility for the teams competition, it specifically states each team is allowed no more than one advanced player and no master or grand master players.
Clearly the open division is not meant to be cherry picked by upper rated players.
Hate to sound jaded here but it's all BS... The BCAPL doesn't give two shits about anything except making money and I guarantee you they took in a nice haul. They are a business and turning a profit is their sole priority. Which is fine but at least try a little harder to take care of your customers.
They could care less about blue collar joe league player.
Were these foreign players wrong? Why? Cause they "outdid" what countless others have done time and time before? Why are they being made an example of? Who determines what is too good and what isn't? Singling them out borders on rascism. The BCAPL better hope these guys don't sue them.
There are countless instances of players being placed in a division below their skill level. It happens every year. Why is this any different? The answer is that it isn't. Someone with connections must have complained. Probably someone who thought they were gonna rob the tournament. It's all a joke. In this day and age of the Internet, how does one get "robbed" completely unawares? The answer is you don't, the BCAPL was too busy making money to care. This is why there are so many different National tournaments nowadays.
There was a commentator on the TAR Stream that even mentioned that all the Taiwan players lived 8 HOURS (not 800 miles) from each other by car, and possibly 5 hours by train. I think it was Charlie Williams who said that, and quickly the conversation got turned off the subject. This was replayed on the Riviera TV's when TAR was offline.
Its a well known fact Mark Griffin got on his new Boeing Business Jet (with Leopard Skin interior) and jetted off to some tropical locale to roll around in all the millions the BCAPL made last week.Hate to sound jaded here but it's all BS... The BCAPL doesn't give two shits about anything except making money and I guarantee you they took in a nice haul. They are a business and turning a profit is their sole priority. Which is fine but at least try a little harder to take care of your customers.
They could care less about blue collar joe league player.
Were these foreign players wrong? Why? Cause they "outdid" what countless others have done time and time before? Why are they being made an example of? Who determines what is too good and what isn't? Singling them out borders on rascism. The BCAPL better hope these guys don't sue them.
There are countless instances of players being placed in a division below their skill level. It happens every year. Why is this any different? The answer is that it isn't. Someone with connections must have complained. Probably someone who thought they were gonna rob the tournament. It's all a joke. In this day and age of the Internet, how does one get "robbed" completely unawares? The answer is you don't, the BCAPL was too busy making money to care. This is why there are so many different National tournaments nowadays.
That wasnt Charlie Williams that was Andy Chen.
I asked him how big Taiwan is and he responded with "Taiwan is 8 hours long by car and 5 hours by train" more or less. He didnt say anything about how far anyone lived from anyone else. The subject was probably changed because there was a match going on and the geography of Taiwan didnt really figure into it much.
Hate to sound jaded here but it's all BS... The BCAPL doesn't give two shits about anything except making money and I guarantee you they took in a nice haul. They are a business and turning a profit is their sole priority. Which is fine but at least try a little harder to take care of your customers.
They could care less about blue collar joe league player.
Were these foreign players wrong? Why? Cause they "outdid" what countless others have done time and time before? Why are they being made an example of? Who determines what is too good and what isn't? Singling them out borders on rascism. The BCAPL better hope these guys don't sue them.
There are countless instances of players being placed in a division below their skill level. It happens every year. Why is this any different? The answer is that it isn't. Someone with connections must have complained. Probably someone who thought they were gonna rob the tournament. It's all a joke. In this day and age of the Internet, how does one get "robbed" completely unawares? The answer is you don't, the BCAPL was too busy making money to care. This is why there are so many different National tournaments nowadays.
Taiwan is 8 hours long, but that is from the most southern tip to the most northern tip. Realistically it is just 5 hour drive from Kaohsiung to Taipei, and in between them are where most people live. There is a high speed rail now which can take you from Kaohsiung to Taipei is less than 1.5 hours.
That wasnt Charlie Williams that was Andy Chen.
I asked him how big Taiwan is and he responded with "Taiwan is 8 hours long by car and 5 hours by train" more or less. He didnt say anything about how far anyone lived from anyone else. The subject was probably changed because there was a match going on and the geography of Taiwan didnt really figure into it much.