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12-02-2019, 03:02 PM

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To me it seems like the concept is quite simple, a "socialist" item is one that is owned and controlled by the community (government). By that definition public roads are a socialist item (they are paid for and regulated by a level of government), as one example.

Reading the comments here one would think that those who replied in this thread adhere to the Chefjeff view of who should own the roads ... yet many also chastised him and his views.

Sorry, I don't see the issue nor the need to make derogatory comments about the OP. At the same time I also understand how the OP was pushing buttons of those who rail against anything containing the work "socialism".

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That is not what is at issue.

Perhaps the 100,000,000 plus murdered by socialist beliefs in the past century should be considered.

Within the our representative republic the government is tasked by with specific roles.
The constitution is a limiter of the power of the government.
Unfortunately over the course of time. We have voted in people that have convinced the public that the power of the states is less important than the power of the federal government.
Thus the states have seeded much of their power to a central government.

People such as PJ would prefer the USA to be heavily socialist/communist in makeup.
As people such as him believe that individuals should not have the freedom to make their own choices and then live with the consequences.
They believe that the government is god like and knows better than the individual.
Even in the face of history which speaks otherwise.

Yes the state does provide some services that are quasi socialist in nature. None of those services are run in a cost effective manner or efficiently. They are all filled with waste and pork that comes at the expense of every tax payer.
All the moneys collected give a pittance in return.

Consider it similar to the worst charity you have ever come across.
The 16th amendment of our constitution should be repealed.

Passed by Congress July 2, 1909. Ratified February 3, 1913. The 16th Amendment changed a portion of Article I, Section 9

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.


Effectively putting a stake through the heart of the government and its lack of fiscal accountability

PJ's meme image shows that he is a bigot.
You would never see him post that same meme using black individual instead of a white guy.


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12-02-2019, 03:04 PM

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Go to the library and read some history.
He needs to get beyond a 3rd grade reading level first...


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12-02-2019, 03:16 PM

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Looks like Jason has an inferiority complex.
Ohh come on, chilifrompalmer.....you know all about this!!


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12-02-2019, 03:26 PM

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Looks like Jason has an inferiority complex.
Looks like you and the other poster have an educational deficiency.

Let's see...DaveK said, a "socialist item" is one that...I'll stop right there. There isn't a thing as a "socialist item". The subject is off the rails already...(and yes, I know what he was trying to allude to i.e. public property/community property, etc. but the terminology is skewed and incorrect.)

Socialism is an economic theory. One that has been proven over and over again to fail and fail horribly.

Please quit showing your ignorance and pick up a history book and educate yourself.


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12-02-2019, 03:33 PM

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Perhaps the 100,000,000 plus murdered by socialist beliefs in the past century should be considered.
Nobody was "murdered by socialist beliefs" - they were murdered by despots posing as socialists to gain power, kinda like the despot in the White House posing as a patriotic capitalist. Both kinds have useful fools to help them.

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12-02-2019, 03:37 PM

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Socialism is an economic theory. One that has been proven over and over again to fail and fail horribly.
Socialism (of the democratic variety) is succeeding in several countries - all of which are happier than we are.

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Good advice (when not misplaced) - try following it.

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12-02-2019, 03:38 PM

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Nobody was "murdered by socialist beliefs" - they were murdered by despots posing as socialists to gain power

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I bet there are many Venezuelan citizens that would agree with this theory...


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12-02-2019, 03:41 PM

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Nobody was "murdered by socialist beliefs" - they were murdered by despots posing as socialists to gain power, kinda like the despot in the White House posing as a patriotic capitalist. Both kinds have useful fools to help them.

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Despot get everyone to buy into socialism > Socialist beliefs become people's beliefs > people's relinquish all personal power to despot > despot uses power to murder people with socialist beliefs.

Rinse and Repeat. ~History


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I bet there are many Venezuelan citizens that would agree with this theory...
The dead can't vote, be a witness, or speak, but the can still vote Democrat.


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Both kinds have useful fools to help them.
To wit...

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I bet there are many Venezuelan citizens that would agree with this theory...
There certainly are - they'd probably all be in favor of real democratic socialism.

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Socialism (of the democratic variety) is succeeding in several countries - all of which are happier than we are.
Please go and make room for some hard-working, intelligent, legal immigrants who support capitalism. I'm sure you will be a lot happier.


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There certainly are - they'd probably all be in favor of real democratic socialism.

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That's what they had.....look what it got 'em.... Why not go down there and do some 'man on the street' interviews....let us know what they say.

While there, visit the Zoo.....ohh wait, nevermind....the starved citizenry has eaten all the animals after their failed socialist policies.


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Socialism (of the democratic variety) is succeeding in several countries - all of which are happier than we are.
several? bet you can't/won't name any, though, right?

"all of which are happier than we are"... LOL... yeah right... you are a Lefty, happy is never an option
  
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12-02-2019, 04:48 PM

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Nobody was "murdered by socialist beliefs" - they were murdered by despots posing as socialists to gain power, kinda like the despot in the White House posing as a patriotic capitalist. Both kinds have useful fools to help them.

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Poor Patricia.

You should become more familiar with the term despot before using it to make inane comparisons.

Now while tyrannical leaders did some killing personally. The vast majority of the killings were perform by the citizenry of those nations that took up the cause of socialism.

I know it is hard to grasp authoritarian leaders didnt personally kill tens of millions over the course of the last century.

By the way. The only killing recently by followers of a socialist in the USA was by a Bernie attempting to shoot republicans like fish in a barrel.

Which no doubt you supported based on your view of conservatives, libertarians and republicans.


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12-02-2019, 05:20 PM

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Which no doubt you supported based on your view of conservatives, libertarians and republicans.
You've seen my signature, haven't you...


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