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11-28-2019, 12:03 PM

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I remember Tim Scruggs saying , his bocote into straight grain maple hit the best .
So I guess having a bocote into straight grain maple TS cue with an ivory piloted joint and ivory ferrules at 19.3 ounces total weight- one apparently made by TS himself; I accidentally came across perhaps the very BEST hitting cue combination possible- from an old school standpoint- I will say that it sure feels like it! I have some great hitting customs- Capone, Richard Black, Durzuricky, Downey, Gracio- this fancy SP from Tim is very hard to get out of my playing case now!!
  
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11-28-2019, 12:18 PM

Great cue, Mike
Iíve dealt in Timís cues in the 90s....I was keeping one for myself...
...but a friend whined me out of it.

I like Scruggsí cues....but most of all liked Tim himself...ícause he laughed at my jokes...
...nobody else did...


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11-28-2019, 01:16 PM

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So, just a little background, I have been playing for 55 years, collecting cues for 20 years, and settled in on five customs- now 6 with my new Scruggs- after owning maybe 50+ customs and high end productions over the years. I still run 40s in 14.1 regularly and can run multiple 9 ball racks. Old school as I do not play with any LD/ CF shafts- only the maple shafts that come with my cues. My "go to" player is my Richard Black "Split Diamond" model from 2003 that I bought directly from Richard Black. Some of my customs have included: Capone, JW, Gilbert,Skip Weston, Drzuricky, Palmer, Rambow, Gracio, Downey, etc.

I have always heard such great things about Tim Scruggs cues- how they play- and last week I bought one - I just had to see for myself! My cue arrived on Sat., but I could not get to a table until today- many of you can appreciate the anticipation this weekend- waiting for Monday to arrive- all weekend my thoughts just kept going back to being at the table and hoping the cue would not disappoint!

Well this morning came and I admit- I was like a seven year old on Christmas morning! When I got to a table this morning and began screwing the cue together, as with EVERY custom cue I ever owned, the anticipation as to how it would play is almost overwhelming. ALWAYS hoping that this new cue will be the BEST I ever played!

Well- I can cheerfully say tonight that Tim Scruggs makes one hell of a great playing cue- in my opinion. The cue has great balance and moves through my bridge hand like a sharp knife through soft butter. The hit was crisp, but just soft enough to give back great feedback on the follow through as the cue tip leaves the cue ball. Draw and follow were effortless. I preformed the standard deflection tests and this cue showed virtually NO deflection on a center ball right or left english application- the cue ball continued to strike the center of the object ball at the end of the table on a straight shot.

This Scruggs cue is a "FANCY" SP - or you could just call it a four point full splice cue with a Bocote wood base into a straight grain maple forearm. It has a black butt cap and black joint collars. The joint is Piloted Ivory 5/16 14 joint screw. Standard Scruggs maple shaft with an ivory ferrule and what looks like a Triangle tip. 12.75 MM tip and total weight of 19.3ounces at 58 1/2 inches. The cue is in mint/like new condition- like it hit maybe a few racks at one time.
I am a BELIEVER in Scruggs cues as per my personal experience today! This one is a keeper and a player!
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11-28-2019, 01:19 PM

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So I guess having a bocote into straight grain maple TS cue with an ivory piloted joint and ivory ferrules at 19.3 ounces total weight- one apparently made by TS himself; I accidentally came across perhaps the very BEST hitting cue combination possible- from an old school standpoint- I will say that it sure feels like it! I have some great hitting customs- Capone, Richard Black, Durzuricky, Downey, Gracio- this fancy SP from Tim is very hard to get out of my playing case now!!
Hang on to it!.. they're getting really hard to find, you'd regret it if you
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11-28-2019, 03:16 PM

There is no oubt you have a genuine Tim Scruggs sneaky pete


All scruggs cues were made by Tim,Mike Cochran or Bob Frey

all under the careful eye of Tim to the same demanding specification

Yours is a TS tim Scruggs or he would not put his name on it

Should you or anyone here on AZ want another made the exact same way
Bob Frey can make more the exact same way,just as good but with his logo

These cues have the reputation of being the best hitting cues ever made

Tim explained the why to me,but I am not supposed to reveal why or how

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12-01-2019, 12:05 PM

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There is no oubt you have a genuine Tim Scruggs sneaky pete


All scruggs cues were made by Tim,Mike Cochran or Bob Frey

all under the careful eye of Tim to the same demanding specification

Yours is a TS tim Scruggs or he would not put his name on it

Should you or anyone here on AZ want another made the exact same way
Bob Frey can make more the exact same way,just as good but with his logo

These cues have the reputation of being the best hitting cues ever made

Tim explained the why to me,but I am not supposed to reveal why or how

Congrats on discovering what you like to play
Thanks for the support- the minute I started hitting with this cue I knew it was something special- I did not realize Tim's history with this style of cue - but I am believing everything I have been told about the way this particular wood/joint/ivory ferrule/tip combination was meant to play- it sure does! Two weeks now with this cue and I can say for sure it is the best player ever in my hands in 55 years of play!
  
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12-01-2019, 12:20 PM

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The odds on CA doing anything to crack down on you buying a single cue with ivory ferrules or ivory joint is basically zero.

How do you know if a Scuggs sneaky was actually made by Tim and not Bob? Are there different markings?
That cue is not a sneaky Pete. The question then becomes whether Bob Frey made other cues aside from true sneaky Petes but if he made them to the same specifications at Tim Scruggs it doesn't really matter.
  
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12-01-2019, 06:27 PM

"the cue is not a sneaky pete"

well after years around cues i discover that a sneaky pete is not a sneaky pete

To me and most everyone i know a sneaky pete is a generic name for a cue
made out of a one piece cue

I suppose there are some who like to apply this term sneaky only to those cues that look like they still are
a 1 piece cue

To them if it has a joint,bands,butt cap, orany other thing but dead plain it is not a sneaky pete

I can understand them thinking that,but why insist on their narrow definition and interject it
into a thread where a fellow has a Tim Scruggs cue that Tim himself decscribed to me as a sneaky pete even if it had a steel joint

Tim insisted on screwing the ferrules on,if memory serves,he once slent a phone call with me describing how he did it

any way i never realized the question was "is this a sneaky pete"

Bob Frey still makes wonderful cues and last time i talked to him
he was making sneaky petes the same way as he always did

Some fruitcakes had tried to knock his work for some esoteric reason that only an AZ nit could ever think of and it was discouraging to Bob.i guessed thart some people just like to knock

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12-02-2019, 03:00 PM

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"the cue is not a sneaky pete"

well after years around cues i discover that a sneaky pete is not a sneaky pete

To me and most everyone i know a sneaky pete is a generic name for a cue
made out of a one piece cue

I suppose there are some who like to apply this term sneaky only to those cues that look like they still are
a 1 piece cue

To them if it has a joint,bands,butt cap, orany other thing but dead plain it is not a sneaky pete

I can understand them thinking that,but why insist on their narrow definition and interject it
into a thread where a fellow has a Tim Scruggs cue that Tim himself decscribed to me as a sneaky pete even if it had a steel joint

Tim insisted on screwing the ferrules on,if memory serves,he once slent a phone call with me describing how he did it

any way i never realized the question was "is this a sneaky pete"

Bob Frey still makes wonderful cues and last time i talked to him
he was making sneaky petes the same way as he always did

Some fruitcakes had tried to knock his work for some esoteric reason that only an AZ nit could ever think of and it was discouraging to Bob.i guessed thart some people just like to knock

Knockers knock,losers lose and winners win,but seldom do winners knock
Just trying to help. Someone wondered if it was made by Tim Scruggs or Bob Frey because Bob Frey made sneaky Petes for Tim Scruggs.

Bob Frey is still around. Perhaps he could be contacted and shown the cue. it does look like brand new cues on his website. Perhaps he did make it. His cues are reasonably priced and play good. I wouldn't mind owning a new one.
  
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