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Carbon Fiber at Mosconi Cup - 11-28-2019, 09:12 AM

I noticed only 3 of 10 players are using CF for their playing cue, Thorpe, Styer, and SVB. Not talking about break cues here or LD maple, only CF for playing cues.
Seems it would be a gentlemanly gesture if some of the CF proponents here on Az would enlighten these folks to the benefits of CF, to both teams, and about how it would add a ball or 2 to their game.
I've watched every match so far and can only imagine the level of play I would witness if they all used CF.
Of course they could possibly be real hard-headed like me and use only maple.
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11-28-2019, 09:34 AM

Let’s stop pretending anyone thinks a CF shaft will make the ball for you or get you in shape easier. Or if anyone does go that far, can’t we just assume they don’t know what they’re talking about and ignore them? Setting up a mock argument with them is like arguing with the village idiot in town square. It just looks like two idiots arguing to everyone else.

The truth about CF is this. If you’re into low deflection, they do it better than all wood shafts in the market unless you really special order something custom. But deflection is part of tuning your game. It’d be dumb for a veteran pro to switch at that stage of his career. But an up and comer like Tyler has his pick of equipment this early in his career. And like Tyler says, he can trust that if his one CF shaft needs a tip replaced then he can use his backup CF shaft and be certain it will play the same as his main because CF is more consistent between shafts. And finally the fact it won’t ding is nice too.

Those are all differentiating value aspects of CF. None of which will make a ball for you. But they will convince some to open their wallets for one. And some don’t need to open their wallets if they they’re happy with what they have. I know this gets a bit “us vs. them” / “tradition vs. new” but there’s no need to dwell in the exaggerations.


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11-28-2019, 09:37 AM

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Let’s stop pretending anyone thinks a CF shaft will make the ball for you or get you in shape easier. Or if anyone does go that far, can’t we just assume they don’t know what they’re talking about and ignore them? Setting up a mock argument with them is like arguing with the village idiot in town square. It just looks like two idiots arguing to everyone else.

The truth about CF is this. If you’re into low deflection, they do it better than all wood shafts in the market unless you really special order something custom. But deflection is part of tuning your game. It’d be dumb for a veteran pro to switch at that stage of his career. But an up and comer like Tyler has his pick of equipment this early in his career. And like Tyler says, he can trust that if his one CF shaft needs a tip replaced then he can use his backup CF shaft and be certain it will play the same as his main because CF is more consistent between shafts. And finally the fact it won’t ding is nice too.

Those are all differentiating value aspects of CF. None of which will make a ball for you. But they will convince some to open their wallets for one. And some don’t need to open their wallets if they they’re happy with what they have. I know this gets a bit “us vs. them” / “tradition vs. new” but there’s no need to dwell in the exaggerations.


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11-28-2019, 09:42 AM

Can't the same be said of the various CTE's?
  
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11-28-2019, 09:43 AM

I've never seen anyone say cf shafts will make you a ball or two better. Seems to be all in your head.

But as far as maintenance and worrying about dings and warping, cf shafts win hands down.
  
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11-28-2019, 09:59 AM

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I've never seen anyone say cf shafts will make you a ball or two better. Seems to be all in your head.

But as far as maintenance and worrying about dings and warping, cf shafts win hands down.
Agree. But if its all in your head then its still real.
I shot with two carbon fiber shafts yesterday for the first time ever and they played really nice, I was impressed.

Having shot with Maple all my life I could fell the difference with the hit, not saying that I would play better but they felt very nice.


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11-28-2019, 10:25 AM

I have carbon fiber shafts and regular maple shafts and LD shafts and can play with all of them.

Some, I prefer over others, but I can adjust to any of them rather quickly.

I prefer soft tips, others prefer medium, and others prefer hard.

It doesn't mean one is any better...it just means that some people have different preferences.
  
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11-28-2019, 10:56 AM

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I noticed only 3 of 10 players are using CF for their playing cue, Thorpe, Styer, and SVB. Not talking about break cues here or LD maple, only CF for playing cues.
Seems it would be a gentlemanly gesture if some of the CF proponents here on Az would enlighten these folks to the benefits of CF, to both teams, and about how it would add a ball or 2 to their game.
I've watched every match so far and can only imagine the level of play I would witness if they all used CF.
Of course they could possibly be real hard-headed like me and use only maple.
Happy Thanksgiving to all.
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11-28-2019, 11:09 AM

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I noticed only 3 of 10 players are using CF for their playing cue, Thorpe, Styer, and SVB. Not talking about break cues here or LD maple, only CF for playing cues.
Seems it would be a gentlemanly gesture if some of the CF proponents here on Az would enlighten these folks to the benefits of CF, to both teams, and about how it would add a ball or 2 to their game.
I've watched every match so far and can only imagine the level of play I would witness if they all used CF.
Of course they could possibly be real hard-headed like me and use only maple.
Happy Thanksgiving to all.
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11-28-2019, 11:12 AM

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I noticed only 3 of 10 players are using CF for their playing cue, Thorpe, Styer, and SVB. Not talking about break cues here or LD maple, only CF for playing cues.
Seems it would be a gentlemanly gesture if some of the CF proponents here on Az would enlighten these folks to the benefits of CF, to both teams, and about how it would add a ball or 2 to their game.
I've watched every match so far and can only imagine the level of play I would witness if they all used CF.
Of course they could possibly be real hard-headed like me and use only maple.
Happy Thanksgiving to all.
You are trying too hard to win "stupidest thread of the year" !!!!


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11-28-2019, 12:42 PM

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I have carbon fiber shafts and regular maple shafts and LD shafts and can play with all of them.

Some, I prefer over others, but I can adjust to any of them rather quickly.

I prefer soft tips, others prefer medium, and others prefer hard.

It doesn't mean one is any better...it just means that some people have different preferences.
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11-28-2019, 01:13 PM

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I'll get there. Maybe I'll try a CF keyboard!
Well, seems like you already got a carbon fiber avatar.


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11-28-2019, 01:45 PM

Well, Styer just missed a ball b/c he put inside spin on it.
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11-28-2019, 02:14 PM

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I'll get there. Maybe I'll try a CF keyboard!
I got one .. Didn't help...

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