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10-21-2019, 03:04 PM

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I just had a
mechanic tell me it’s almost impossible
not to get stretch shadows but they
go away.


Not saying I am perfect by any means,
but, that is Bull$h1t. I strongly agree
that most have excuses for their poor
quality of work.

That was installed last weds.
Not a single shadow and it is stretched
so tight you could break dance on it.
I use 4" paddle pliers, they are actually
called "Hand seamers", but, I appropriately
renamed them because with Jessup
Skateboard Grip tape on the top and bottoms,
they are a great tool!



Geoff,
No offense of course! I may not work
on machinery, but, in the context of this
forum I am listed in the forums "Mechanics"
directory. Also, the Talk to a "Mechanic"
section is what we are posting in on this forum.
It is very clear that the term is defined differently
than it's use here, so I find it ridiculous to keep
pointing that out. Call yourself what ever you
want, but, I am fine with "Billiard Mechanic"
Ever hear of JZ Mechanix the owner of Billiard
Mechanix? He is one of the best out there

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10-21-2019, 10:10 PM

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I just had a mechanic tell me itís almost impossible not to get stretch shadows but they go away.
See any stretch shadows here?
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10-22-2019, 04:29 AM

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I wholeheartedly agree!!! I had to have my bed recovered, rails were already done when I had them modified. I asked around to find out who was doing local tables, I got a few different answers from different places so I went and looked at how well their tables looked and held up. I was less than impressed with all of the examples, after searching for a couple of months I decided to get the how to DVD RKC produced and I did my table myself. Im back in the same boat again right now now that I wore my cloth out after 6-7 years of use but this time I will attempt to do the rails myself too. Time to order another DVD. I think the most important thing to do is go check out some of the tables that the mechanic you select has already done. Is the cloth loose? Stretch shadows? Cloth lifting up at corners or even duct taped down? Those would all be deal breakers for me.
Where are these available?
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10-22-2019, 05:51 AM

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Geoff,
No offense of course! I may not work
on machinery, but, in the context of this
forum I am listed in the forums "Mechanics"
directory. Also, the Talk to a "Mechanic"
section is what we are posting in on this forum.
It is very clear that the term is defined differently
than it's use here, so I find it ridiculous to keep
pointing that out. Call yourself what ever you
want, but, I am fine with "Billiard Mechanic"
Ever hear of JZ Mechanix the owner of Billiard
Mechanix? He is one of the best out there

Trent from Toledo
To each their own. I prefer not to use misnomers, if it can be avoided.


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10-22-2019, 06:04 AM

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To each their own.
I prefer not to use misnomers,
if it can be avoided.
Not sure if it can be avoided
because of the reasons I listed.
After all this is called Talk to a Mechanic

Here is my version of the Pro Am,
not a single shadow!

  
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10-22-2019, 06:26 AM

Trent and Glenn, you guys cloth work is great! Itís like the Sistine chapel ceiling.
  
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10-22-2019, 06:40 AM

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Trent and Glenn, you guys cloth work is great! Itís like the Sistine chapel ceiling.
Yeah? Check this out, a GC1 with the 3 piece Brunstone playing surface turned into a one piece, free floating, as in it's NOT screwed down to the frame anywhere, no staple bed cloth install.

No one does what I do, regardless of what they claim to be able to do.
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No one does what I do,
regardless of what they claim to be able to do.
RKC takes this stuff to another level and has influenced
the industry very, very heavily. My knowledge base mostly
came from studying his work and the many hours he
generously has given to me over the phone.

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10-22-2019, 08:49 AM

Don't care about all the thank you'd, I just wish the CUSTOMERS would spend a little more time in doing THEIR due diligence before they choose someone to work on their pool table(s)! That is what it's going to take in order to improve this industry, but as long as cheap is the deciding factor, nothing will change.
  
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RKC takes this stuff to another level and has influenced
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came from studying his work and the many hours he
generously has given to me over the phone.

Much respect and THANK-YOU!

Trent from Toledo
The more you guys show your work, not just the pictures of the completed table, the more you show what goes into doing a job right. The more you do that, the smarter the customers become. Hell, even a hack can post pictures of a completed table and post the right ones to make the job look Professional. It's only when you follow up behind that person's work to you get to see what was really done!!!
  
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And that is why. - 10-22-2019, 09:46 AM

Gentlemen , with all the information I have collected , that is why I have decided to have Glen finish putting my table ( GC1 ) back together in finishing the restoration. I am very confident he is the right guy. Thank you
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10-22-2019, 10:35 AM

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Yeah? Check this out, a GC1 with the 3 piece Brunstone playing surface turned into a one piece, free floating, as in it's NOT screwed down to the frame anywhere, no staple bed cloth install.

No one does what I do, regardless of what they claim to be able to do.
Looks great! I would have my gc restored instead of getting a diamond if you would come down to Texas. I wouldnít even make you put horns on it.
  
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Don't care about all the
thank you'd, I just wish the CUSTOMERS would spend a little
more time in doing THEIR due diligence before they choose
someone to work on their pool table(s)! That is what it's
going to take in order to improve this industry, but as long as
cheap is the deciding factor, nothing will change.
You dont have to be rude. I was only
giving credit where it is due. I understand
what you are saying about cheap customers
and you know how to handle that:
SAY NO TO THE JOB. Simple as that.
Most people are cheap and that is a fact.
I try to be cost effective, but, when it comes
down to it I know you get what you pay for.
Hence I farm out any work I don't think I can
do properly. When the subrails are chewed in
the staple relief and the jaws are roached, I send
them down to Jack Z and he replaces it all. New formica
needed: take it over to my buddy that does it right.
Powder coating or chroming same thing.

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10-22-2019, 01:09 PM

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You dont have to be rude. I was only
giving credit where it is due. I understand
what you are saying about cheap customers
and you know how to handle that:
SAY NO TO THE JOB. Simple as that.
Most people are cheap and that is a fact.
I try to be cost effective, but, when it comes
down to it I know you get what you pay for.
Hence I farm out any work I don't think I can
do properly. When the subrails are chewed in
the staple relief and the jaws are roached, I send
them down to Jack Z and he replaces it all. New formica
needed: take it over to my buddy that does it right.
Powder coating or chroming same thing.

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10-22-2019, 01:35 PM

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Wasn't trying to be rude, I do appreciate the thank you, was just trying trying to make a point.
Love ya RKC! You care about this business and I do to.
When I first joined AZB and was catching flack from some of the locals for being the newbie, someone said this in my defense:
"This business will dictate who will come and go" <<<-- That was YOU!
I care about my customers and my reputation because they go hand in hand!
I am in this for the long term, I work hard and always trying to learn new stuff.


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