APA rule question

frankncali

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
If a player shoots and thinks they made a ball but didn't but then shot again... that would be ball in hand ??
 

Celophanewrap

Call me Grace
Silver Member
Yes, a BIH foul, as long as the foul is called prior to the 3rd shot in this scenario.
The foul occurs when the cue ball is struck for the 2nd shot
 

hurricane145

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Yes, but how does their opponent even let this happen? Seems like 2 drunks not paying attention to the game. :confused:

You are usually best off getting your turn at the table as soon as possible to control the game.
Sometimes you see in that situation something good in letting him foul. You may see he is going to break up a cluster that is nearly hopeless for you to break up. You are taking your chances as it could come out worse!

You often have to consider, evaluate, know the capabilities of your opponent which can't be much given the circumstances in the scenario!
I have often overlooked fouls when a ball was pocketed and I see a big advantage to letting him shoot again and certain he can't get out.
 

ctyhntr

RIP Kelly
Silver Member
If a player shoots and thinks they made a ball but didn't but then shot again... that would be ball in hand ??

Here is a link to the APA Team manual. The Team manual is more comprehensive. Fouls are ball in hand penalty.

https://media.poolplayers.com/TMRB/Team-Manual-English.pdf

5. SHOOTING THE WRONG BALLS
Occasionally, a player mistakenly shoots the wrong category of balls (in 8-Ball) or the wrong numbered ball (in 9-Ball). The shooter may avoid a foul by asking the opponent which ball or category of balls they should be shooting. If asked, the opponent must answer honestly. If the shooter hits the wrong ball, a foul occurs as soon as the wrong ball is struck, regardless of whether the ball is pocketed or not.

NOTE: If a foul is not called before the shooter makes legal contact with a ball of their actual category, it is too late to call the foul.
• 8-Ball - Once a player makes legal contact with the 8-ball, the player
assumes control of that category of wrongly pocketed balls and can win
the game by legally pocketing the 8-ball. In addition, if the sitting player
does not call a foul before the opponent’s turn ends, and subsequently
contacts the wrong ball during their turn, both players will assume the new
category of balls for the remainder of the game.

• 9-Ball - Any balls pocketed prior to the foul being called will be marked
as dead balls.
 
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