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10-04-2019, 06:54 PM

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Deep down I would like to have my gc restored. I would think it would be a whole lot cheaper but a pain. I don’t know of any top mechanics that live near me or would take on the job. Also, from what I have learned, the parts are not easy to find. Getting a diamond would be expensive but easy. All the parts original and brand new.
Once again tough choice.
Easy but cost more>> Diamond.
Time waiting, possible aggravation, restore>>less money...GC

If you can afford the Diamond...I'd say... Buy once, cry once. It will last a lifetime under most conditions. I'm considering a Diamond Pro if I can get a grip on it's looks. As for Trent he would be a reputable dealer or person to deal with.





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10-04-2019, 07:16 PM

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Once again tough choice.
Easy but cost more>> Diamond.
Time waiting, possible aggravation, less money...GC

If you can afford the Diamond...I'd say... Buy once, cry once. It will last a lifetime under most conditions. I'm considering a Diamond Pro if I can get a grip on it's looks. As for Trent he would be a reputable dealer or person to deal with.
I agree about Trent. Heís a good guy.
  
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Pull the trigger - 10-04-2019, 07:39 PM

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I agree about Trent. Heís a good guy.
I have a friend who had a problem with Diamond quality when it came to his new 10' table. Took well over a year to get it resolved. Not heard the same about their other tables. I play on 7' Diamonds all the time and I think they are very high quality.

Look at the feeedback on this forum for Trent. He is a guy who delivers quality and someone you can trust with your decision.
  
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10-04-2019, 08:09 PM

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Iím only giving it a thought too right now. I want to know what kind of money I would be giving up. Iím either going to do a grand restoration on my gc or get any new diamond. As far as the slate, I donít have the knowledge in the difference. Would a one piece be hard to sell if something ever happens and I have to sell? Does a one piece play better?
The slates are thicker on the three piece.

An installer guy I know thinks the one piece slate seems to bow, warp, droop, or whatever more than three piece slates. I have no idea if thatís true.
  
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10-04-2019, 08:52 PM

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To answer the OP's question... If the 3 piece slate table gets sold someday the sale is not limited to a ground level buyer.

Thank you to all who said such nice things about me. I am just working hard and doing the best I can. I love what I do and my life revolves around pool. I love to play, even though I am an average player. My favorite feeling is getting a job done to the best of my ability and my customer being super happy!!!

Good input, but, you are forgetting that they do not offer the Diamond Professional in the one piece slate unless you plan to spend lots of extra money! Add more than 3 stairs up or down and it is most likely not an option at all.

"Three piece slate they have to glue together and then sand it even. It’s not like leafs of a dinning room table." <<<<--- ANYONE DOING THIS SHOULD BE FIRED... There is no way it will be level on both sides of the seams. Let me be clear, we all use the "liquid dowel method" but, obviously some people do not know what they are doing. You have to be able to slide your Starrett 98 across the seams in both directions with no clicking before you use the liquid dowel method.

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10-04-2019, 09:11 PM

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Deep down I would like to have my gc restored. Also, from what I have learned, the parts are not easy to find.
What parts do you need?
Are they missing?
Fleabay now has new replacement pocket castings or they can be powder coated to any color and finish.


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10-05-2019, 05:09 AM

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Thank you to all who said such nice things about me. I am just working hard and doing the best I can. I love what I do and my life revolves around pool.
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10-05-2019, 05:48 AM

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What parts do you need?
Are they missing?
Fleabay now has new replacement pocket castings or they can be powder coated to any color and finish.
The only parts missing are the plastic aprons (wings as Trent calls them). I would like to replace some of the hardware. The rest is all cosmetic. The table is solid.
  
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10-05-2019, 06:07 AM

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The only parts missing are the plastic aprons (wings as Trent calls them). I would like to replace some of the hardware. The rest is all cosmetic. The table is solid.
Trent can help you out I am sure.

“Plastic Aprons”? Wings?
I can’t think of any plastic parts on my GCIV.

I have drop pockets.
If yours has a ball return then maybe you are describing the short dished pieces that transition from the pocket liner to the main system of return gullies?
I’ve always heard those called “Gully Boots” or Wings.

Classic Billiards has a set for $195.
https://www.classicbilliards.net/poc...ur-models.html

Valley tables have them, but GC’s use a one piece rubber pocket for their gully system.
So I am not sure.

Trent will know.
I am interested in knowing.

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Trent can help you out I am sure.

ďPlastic ApronsĒ? Wings?
I canít think of any plastic parts on my GCIV.

I have drop pockets.
If yours has a ball return then maybe you are describing the short dished pieces that transition from the pocket liner to the main system of return gullies?
Iíve always heard those called ďGully BootsĒ or Wings.

Classic Billiards has a set for $195.
https://www.classicbilliards.net/poc...ur-models.html

Valley tables have them, but GCís use a one piece rubber pocket for their gully system.
So I am not sure.

Trent will know.
I am interested in knowing.

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The "wings" are only on the 1 & 2. the come out from under the corners of the table to cover the ball return/ or drop pockets. I only have a set for an oversized 8 pro. Gulley return or drop pockets can be bought for much cheaper than that. I will sell replacements of either for $125 shipped. As for the knock off GC castings, I can get those quit a bit cheaper as well. It really depends on what you want from your table, if you want perfect: Buy a Gold Crown 6 or a Diamond Professional. These are the absolute 2 best tables in the world in my opinion. I find it interesting that people are willing to spend money on silly things, but, when it comes to something like this they will pucker up. What do you get to keep and use your whole life? Not many things, buying either of the tables I mentioned are a LIFE purchase. You will figure it out and make the decision best for you. Patience in all of this is essential! Good luck.

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10-05-2019, 08:52 AM

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Buy a Gold Crown 6 or a Diamond Professional. These are the absolute 2 best tables in the world in my opinion.
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The GC6. It's a new style that's loved or hated. I think the GC got killed style wise . It should be called GC6plus or something like that. The overlapping pocket castings gotta go. They would look better in bronze.

The Diamond is as functional/durable as can be. A build well plain Jane. There's an interesting balance comparing Diamond & GC6. Cannot not go wrong with either table.

Trent.... If you had to choose a Pro or GC6 for your personal table...which one and why.





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The GC6. It's a new style that's loved or hated. I think the GC got killed style wise . It should be called CG6plus or something like that. The overlapping pocket castings gotta go. They would look better in bronze.

The Diamond is as functional/durable as can be. A build well plain Jane. There's an interesting balance comparing Diamond & GC6. Cannot not go wrong with either table.

Trent.... If you had to choose a Pro or GC6 for your personal table...which one and why.
I am going to say this first: I LOVE BOTH TABLES AND SELL THEM BOTH!!

That one is easy, I would go with a GC6. Having recently installed 2 of them, one new and one floor model. I like the construction better. I also like all the cool metal trim pieces. Yeah I hear you guys out their cussing me because you have been banging your $2k + cues on those in-animate objects and then blaming them!! HAHAHAHAHA.

I feel the construction is close on the 2 tables. Its no secret where the Professional design obviously came from. Yes Diamond did things much differently, but, the base design is obvious. Not to mention they originally came with Brunswick Superspeed Cushions on them, then Championship Fleetwood, then their own black k55 Diamond and then finally Artemis on the 9's only

I am always gonna go solid wood beams for the frame over man made beams. Slate-screws strip out MUCH easier on the manmade beams. The GC6 frame is better because it is solid wood. Also the Pedestal legs on a Pro are made of high density Fiberboard & poplar and veneered with oak on the front/ back of the faces, the side caps are solid oak, but this offers nothing to the build of the legs.

The GC6 pedestals use plywood and poplar glued and nailed. Construction is far better IMO.

I do not play at tournaments, if I were tryin to do those things I would go Diamond Professional. The shelf depth makes them way more difficult to play on and the Diamond Pro Am is the standard at the moment.

The Gold Crown banks like a dream. No one can deny that. With Pro or Super Pro Cut pocket they play tough too.

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I am going to say this first: I LOVE BOTH TABLES AND SELL THEM BOTH!!

That one is easy, I would go with a GC6.
Do the castings sit flush on top with rails. How is the fit/finish?





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ďI am always gonna go solid wood beams for the frame over man made beams. Slate-screws strip out MUCH easier on the manmade beams. The GC6 frame is better because it is solid wood. Also the Pedestal legs on a Pro are made of high density Fiberboard & poplar and veneered with oak on the front/ back of the faces, the side caps are solid oak, but this offers nothing to the build of the legs.Ē

The fiberboard is concerning. I thought the diamond was solid wood.
  
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Do the castings sit flush on top with rails. How is the fit/finish?
I would wait for Trentís answer but I think they are flush. I would go with the gc6 too but thatís 4 grand more.
  
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